Dick Dastardly Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Motherwell or Kilmarnock would be the logical options, but both have home SPL fixtures on the 6th. I can't see them moving an SPL game or playing on consecutive days, so who knows where. I do know that I will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Thinking about it more I can't see it being at Somerset, the SFL and Ramsdens are going to want to present as polished and professional a match as possible so you'd think they'd play it in a modern 4 sided stadium, I think it will be Livvy. As for taking 5,000+ and Jags fans coming out of the woodwork I'm not really convinced this tournament is much of a draw for the lapsed fans but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Falkirk could be another possibility but they are at home on 6th April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUMBERNAULD JAG Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I was told it was Rugby park definately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I was told it was Rugby park definately Hmm, wonder if we'll fill it (19,000 capacity, isn't it?)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUMBERNAULD JAG Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 4500 Queens fans 8000 jags fans, nearly fill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_miss_jag Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes LMJ, you are correct, they have used an SPL ground in the past. Im unsure why you digress but very astute of you to spot that. I am unaware if this fact has any bearing on their decision this year. But as I have said above... The SFL do not want to hold this years final in an SPL ground and for our game v QOTS, their two choices at this moment are livi and airdrie. I hope this clears things up for you. No it doesn't clear anything up, i would love to know how you know for a sure fact? Anyways the final is sunday 7th so shouldn't be an issue if it is an sfl or spl ground. Hopfully Kilmarnock! Would rather not got to Airdrie or Livi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 The choice of ground could have a considerable bearing on the attendance. Rugby Park, even if it's a bit on the big side, would be the obvious choice bar the politics. I don't suppose those that make the decision will give a hoot about Sunday travel difficulties or the whether the venue makes for a good day out. So if you rule out the SPL grounds, Hamilton (too small), Airdrie (plastic pitch), Ayr (for aesthetic reasons) then it kinda looks like a fun day out in West Lothian is on the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 4500 Queens fans 8000 jags fans, nearly fill it I'd bloody love that. Do many people think we can take 7-8k or the like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 How many travelled yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsman411971 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I honestly dont think playing it at Airdrie or Livi will happen. The potential crowd for the match could be pushing 5 figures, and if they have it at either of those 2 grounds the match would have to be an all ticket affair. If its played at Killie or Motherwell, it should be a pay at the gate job, which could increase the crowd due to the possibility of neutrals and last minute decision makers turning up. It would have to be priced right though, say £15 adult and £5 kids. A beautiful Spring day, watching the 1st division champions demolish the opposition with their version of "Total Football". Whats not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think it will be ticketed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 How many travelled yesterday? Probably 800, no way we take 8,000 to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I wouldn't be too unhappy if we were to take 4 and a half to 5 thousand to the final; I think that's more realistic than upwards of 7 or 8 thousand, as much as that would be fantastic. Of course much will depend on how we're doing league-wise by the time the tickets go on sale. Unfortunately, and outside of the hard core of active Jags fans, the final of the Ramsdens against QotS doesn't have quite the allure of a Scottish Cup semi final at Hampden against one of the severely deformed female siblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I was told it was Rugby park definately Officially? If so, please reveal your source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Probably 800, no way we take 8,000 to the final. I agree; I can't imagine 10 Thistle fans turning up for every one who made the effort yesterday. For a Scottish Cup Final, yes, but not the Ramsden's. Just another thought: What will Ramsden's do if the guy who pawned the Cup pays to get it back before the final? Edited October 15, 2012 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Difficult to say home many we wil get, but it's a final which means ma., paw, the weans and lapsees will attend. Could well be 7000-8000. Whatever it is, will be a great day....especially if we win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted October 15, 2012 Members Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Probably best to look at the historic attendances for the final to get some sort of idea how many will turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Probably best to look at the historic attendances for the final to get some sort of idea how many will turn up. 2011/12 - Falkirk v Hamilton (at Livingston) 5210 2010/11 - Queen of the South v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 5124 2009/10 - Dundee v Inverness (at St Johnstone) 8031 2008/09 - Airdrie v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 4091 2007/08 - Dunfermline v St Johnstone (at Dundee) 6446 2006/07 - Ross County v Clyde (at St Johnstone) 4062 2005/06 - St Mirren v Hamilton (at Airdrie) 9613 2004/05 - Falkirk v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 7471 2003/04 - Inverness v Airdrie (at St Johnstone) 5428 2002/03 - Brechin v Queen of the South (at Clyde) 6428 2001/02 - Airdrie v Alloa (at Clyde) 4548 2000/01 - Airdrie v Livingston (at Clyde) 5623 1999/00 - Inverness v Alloa (at Airdrie) 4043 1997/98 - Falkirk v Queen of the South (at Motherwell) 9735 1996/97 - Stranraer v St Johnstone (at Clyde) 5522 1995/96 - Stenhousemuir v Dundee Utd (at St Johnstone) 7856 1994/95 - Airdrie v Dundee (at St Johnstone) 8844 1993/94 - Falkirk v St Mirren (at Motherwell) 13763 1992/93 - Hamilton v Morton (at St Mirren) 7391 1991/92 - Ayr v Hamilton (at Motherwell) 9663 1990/91 - Ayr v Dundee (at Motherwell) 11506 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson Towers Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 2011/12 - Falkirk v Hamilton (at Livingston) 5210 2010/11 - Queen of the South v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 5124 2009/10 - Dundee v Inverness (at St Johnstone) 8031 2008/09 - Airdrie v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 4091 2007/08 - Dunfermline v St Johnstone (at Dundee) 6446 2006/07 - Ross County v Clyde (at St Johnstone) 4062 2005/06 - St Mirren v Hamilton (at Airdrie) 9613 2004/05 - Falkirk v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 7471 2003/04 - Inverness v Airdrie (at St Johnstone) 5428 2002/03 - Brechin v Queen of the South (at Clyde) 6428 2001/02 - Airdrie v Alloa (at Clyde) 4548 2000/01 - Airdrie v Livingston (at Clyde) 5623 1999/00 - Inverness v Alloa (at Airdrie) 4043 1997/98 - Falkirk v Queen of the South (at Motherwell) 9735 1996/97 - Stranraer v St Johnstone (at Clyde) 5522 1995/96 - Stenhousemuir v Dundee Utd (at St Johnstone) 7856 1994/95 - Airdrie v Dundee (at St Johnstone) 8844 1993/94 - Falkirk v St Mirren (at Motherwell) 13763 1992/93 - Hamilton v Morton (at St Mirren) 7391 1991/92 - Ayr v Hamilton (at Motherwell) 9663 1990/91 - Ayr v Dundee (at Motherwell) 11506 Big numbers. As was noted above, though, I can't see us multiplying yesterday's Jags attendance 10-fold: maybe, if we are still both doing well in the league, 3k Jags and a bit less Queens? That would be pretty flat at Rugby Park, but at Somerset if would be brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Big numbers. As was noted above, though, I can't see us multiplying yesterday's Jags attendance 10-fold: maybe, if we are still both doing well in the league, 3k Jags and a bit less Queens? That would be pretty flat at Rugby Park, but at Somerset if would be brilliant. There will be more than 3k Jags I reckon. As for the venue, a work colleague of mine has just told me the venue is between Livingston and Airdrie, his source being someone high up in Ramsdens. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) Double post. Edited October 16, 2012 by H Wragg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 2011/12 - Falkirk v Hamilton (at Livingston) 5210 2010/11 - Queen of the South v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 5124 2009/10 - Dundee v Inverness (at St Johnstone) 8031 2008/09 - Airdrie v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 4091 2007/08 - Dunfermline v St Johnstone (at Dundee) 6446 2006/07 - Ross County v Clyde (at St Johnstone) 4062 2005/06 - St Mirren v Hamilton (at Airdrie) 9613 2004/05 - Falkirk v Ross County (at St Johnstone) 7471 2003/04 - Inverness v Airdrie (at St Johnstone) 5428 2002/03 - Brechin v Queen of the South (at Clyde) 6428 2001/02 - Airdrie v Alloa (at Clyde) 4548 2000/01 - Airdrie v Livingston (at Clyde) 5623 1999/00 - Inverness v Alloa (at Airdrie) 4043 1997/98 - Falkirk v Queen of the South (at Motherwell) 9735 1996/97 - Stranraer v St Johnstone (at Clyde) 5522 1995/96 - Stenhousemuir v Dundee Utd (at St Johnstone) 7856 1994/95 - Airdrie v Dundee (at St Johnstone) 8844 1993/94 - Falkirk v St Mirren (at Motherwell) 13763 1992/93 - Hamilton v Morton (at St Mirren) 7391 1991/92 - Ayr v Hamilton (at Motherwell) 9663 1990/91 - Ayr v Dundee (at Motherwell) 11506 Interesting stats. Nerd alert: I ran a quick Spearman correlation on the data, and since the first final in 1990 the attendances have been going down significantly (rho = -0.476, p = 0.036). But I'd like to think that Queens fans will look upon it as a real chance to cause an upset and so will turn up in fairly big numbers. If both teams are doing well in the league, I'd be hopeful of getting more than 8,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 There will be more than 3k Jags I reckon. As for the venue, a work colleague of mine has just told me the venue is between Livingston and Airdrie, his source being someone high up in Ramsdens. We shall see. That'll be sad if that's correct. Livingston would have a detrimental effect on attendance and playing on Airdrie's plastic pitch could effect team selection. We'll likely be playing two games a week around then, which could be a problem in itself, playing an additional match on an artificial pitch would only compound the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The only redeeming qualities of those choices is that they are decent stadia with a good view. I make the effort for a league game but for a national final fairly uninspiring. Ballatyne after a few quid maybe right enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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