mhs Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) If that's the sort of money he's looking for and getting it then I hope he goes to one of our likely competitors. That would fairly eat into that club's budget.. Almost an identikit scenario for a gig at Dens? St Mirren have released/are not keeping Paul McGowan (I don't want him at Firhill btw!), he was a wide/attacking player and Saints fans claim he was on £3k a week... I reckon St Mirren may try and get McFadden! He can still be a decent player imo. County have signed Joe Cardle on a one year deal. Shows a lack of ambition, if that is the standard County are bringing in then they will be down near the bottom next season. He had a decent season at Raith there, will be interesting to see how he copes in the Premiership! Edited May 21, 2014 by mhs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 County have signed Joe Cardle on a one year deal. Shows a lack of ambition Or a dose of realism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Or a dose of realism? Or they'll just spurt a chunk of cash next January transfer window to rescue them, again ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Or a dose of realism? did joe cardle not play for the pars in the spl?If we are looking for a left back what about Ryan McGivern at Hibs? I know he is part of a terrible Hibs team but I'm sure it's the whole team and management to blame not just McGivern and with spl experience and in a different team he might do okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mull Jag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 No way on McGivern he is a hoof ball merchant- rather go for th eboy calum booth out on loan at raith or the Hamilton full back Ziggy Gordon? Cardle is a Ross frobes type player- good in flashes but not up to Premier League McFadden is a bust on the way down, yeas could turn it on on ocassion but he wasnt getting a regular start with Well and his wages are out of our budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 No way on McGivern he is a hoof ball merchant- rather go for th eboy calum booth out on loan at raith or the Hamilton full back Ziggy Gordon? Cardle is a Ross frobes type player- good in flashes but not up to Premier League McFadden is a bust on the way down, yeas could turn it on on ocassion but he wasnt getting a regular start with Well and his wages are out of our budget i wasn't sure if the ziggy Gordon deal was still a possibility with him just signing a new deal and McNamara also hovering around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ryan McGivern and Kirk Broadfoot both give me hope that I might still make it as a professional footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck snort Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 No way on McGivern he is a hoof ball merchant- rather go for th eboy calum booth out on loan at raith or the Hamilton full back Ziggy Gordon? Cardle is a Ross frobes type player- good in flashes but not up to Premier League McFadden is a bust on the way down, yeas could turn it on on ocassion but he wasnt getting a regular start with Well and his wages are out of our budget To be fair to McGivern that's the way both Fenlon and Butcher have told Hibs to play. A mate of mine who knows Alan Maybury was told by him that training under Butcher and Malpas is brutal. It's all about launching the ball into the box from anywhere on the park and encouraging midfield runners to pick up the pieces. I'm not suggesting we should be interested in McGivern, just that playing for Hibs at the moment is no indication of how good a player you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mull Jag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 To be fair to McGivern that's the way both Fenlon and Butcher have told Hibs to play. A mate of mine who knows Alan Maybury was told by him that training under Butcher and Malpas is brutal. It's all about launching the ball into the box from anywhere on the park and encouraging midfield runners to pick up the pieces. I'm not suggesting we should be interested in McGivern, just that playing for Hibs at the moment is no indication of how good a player you are. I agree that a player has to play the way a team is set up to play and Butcher especially is a long ball merchant (look at ICT) i just dont think McGivern is any good as anyone with a ounce of talent would shine in the current hibz team. I would rather go with younger players eager to develop that mid 20s journeyman guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ryan mcgivern is the worst footballer I've ever seen at this level. If we sign him we may as well just not turn up for any of our games and play in the championship the season after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellowallover Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I watched the Hamilton game last night and it was the first time I can really remember seeing Ziggy Gordon playing. Maybe it was just me, but for a left back he doesn't use his left foot and is actually right footed. That was a downside straight away as he never seemed keen on taking his man on and getting a cross in. He was always cutting in (which Sinky does too to be fair) but seems pretty limited in that regard. Seemed ok defensively but can't say I was bowled over by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I agree that a player has to play the way a team is set up to play and Butcher especially is a long ball merchant (look at ICT) i just dont think McGivern is any good as anyone with a ounce of talent would shine in the current hibz team. I would rather go with younger players eager to develop that mid 20s journeyman guys I think Jason Cummings is the onl one in that Hibs team who will possibly move onto bigger things in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I think Jason Cummings is the onl one in that Hibs team who will possibly move onto bigger things in time I think Sam Stanton could be a good player ...if he didn't show up in that game he has looked their best player in a lot of other games, in fact he's looked their only player with any skill sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Disagree with the comments about Ryan McGivern, I think he would be a good replacement for Sinclair. There are a few Hibs players I would be interested in if they became available. Liam Craig would make a great addition to the squad, along with Cairney and Heffernan if we fail to get Taylor. We need to add some strength and more experience to the team. We need two new centre backs. We lost far too many headed goals last season. If we don’t do something about this, teams will continue to play on this. One of the big differences about going up to the Premiership is teams are far better at exploiting your weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Disagree with the comments about Ryan McGivern, I think he would be a good replacement for Sinclair. There are a few Hibs players I would be interested in if they became available. Liam Craig would make a great addition to the squad, along with Cairney and Heffernan if we fail to get Taylor. We need to add some strength and more experience to the team. We need two new centre backs. We lost far too many headed goals last season. If we don’t do something about this, teams will continue to play on this. One of the big differences about going up to the Premiership is teams are far better at exploiting your weaknesses. Really? Ryan mcgivern has been noticeably bad in that hibs team. He could maybe be a semi-competent centre back but as a left back we're probably just as well letting a different fan play there every week. Liam Craig I'm undecided on, don't know where he would fit in our team, agree about cairney as a squad player and also heffernan who has proven he can do it at killie. The only ones other than them I'd be interested in are the young ones like Stanton and Cummings who'll be staying and kevin Thompson who'll probably want too much money for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I watched the Hamilton game last night and it was the first time I can really remember seeing Ziggy Gordon playing. Maybe it was just me, but for a left back he doesn't use his left foot and is actually right footed. That was a downside straight away as he never seemed keen on taking his man on and getting a cross in. He was always cutting in (which Sinky does too to be fair) but seems pretty limited in that regard. Seemed ok defensively but can't say I was bowled over by him. You're correct about Gordon. A right back but been played left back. Stuck record from me but I still think it's Hendrie we'd be after. Faded after an injury but still a young lad with real potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I have watched all our HIbs games this season and I thought Ryan Mcgivern has been good. The weakness Hibs have in defence is mostly round the centre backs imo. Liam Craig would play the centre attacking midfield role Craigen played last season. If he does go from Hibs I would think other premiership teams would be in for him though. I was sure Archie would go for Thomson last year when he was made available in the window last season. Looking back on it though he is to injury prone nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I see Sheffield United have tried to increase their Scottish contingent by bidding £100k for Mcginn from St Mirren, which has been turned down. I wonder if an out of favour striker might be offered as part of any increased offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudjag Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Tim Clancy released by St Johnstone. Experienced centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Nigel Hasselbaink has been released by St Johnstone. Think he would definitely be worth looking at. Him and Higgy on the wings would be stuff of dreams. Edited May 22, 2014 by The Arch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hasselbaink always seemed to me to be a very Christie Elliott-esque player. Plenty of pace and power but not a lot of technical ability to his game really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Not a fan of Hasslebaink. And not heard much about Clancy recently but was decent previously, could be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I know Clancy can play anywhere along the backline but is he most comfortable at right-back? Or centre-half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Michael higdon has been released by a Dutch club. Has scored a fair few in the past with spl clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 They released him as they can't afford his wages. Doubt we could either, but would take him in a heartbeat if we was within our wage structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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