Third Lanark Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 According to BBC gossip page, Sheffield Utd are signing Mark Mcnulty from Livi. Could this push Taylor a little closer to the exit door? I maybe wrong but McNulty is a midfielder I thought while Lyle is a forward so might not make much difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Jury is out for Prince. At times I thought he has looked quite slow and cumbersome - not to sure if he was perhaps injured but certainly wouldnt put him a priority before Taylor, Erskine, Cairney (if possible) and a central defender Central defender and LB are the total priorities, in my view. I don't get this love in for Cairney, though. Cracking player in our first division team that went nowhere. I wish him noting but the best, but he's hardly lit up the east end of Edinburgh, has he? Where exactly would he fit in to our system now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Central defender and LB are the total priorities, in my view. I don't get this love in for Cairney, though. Cracking player in our first division team that went nowhere. I wish him noting but the best, but he's hardly lit up the east end of Edinburgh, has he? Where exactly would he fit in to our system now? Cairney would be on last chance saloon, he has been pretty good in a garbage Hibs team, back home where he belongs he could excel.I have to say for Buabens experience with Dundee United and Carlisle I did expect a bit more from him and expected him to be a bit more mobile than he appeared to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Cairney would be on last chance saloon, he has been pretty good in a garbage Hibs team, back home where he belongs he could excel. I have to say for Buabens experience with Dundee United and Carlisle I did expect a bit more from him and expected him to be a bit more mobile than he appeared to be But where exactly would Cairney excel? In place of Banzo or Fraser? Cos he sure as hell won't make the team before Higgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I would agree with Barney Rubble. Loved Cairney at Jags, but his injuries and I believe, some personal issues have took its toll. If he is freed I wouldn't be surprised to see him back at Firhill, maybe on a pay as you play. As. Third Lanark says, maybe a last chance saloon?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 So, so happy we are nowhere near the play-off. Really don't fancy Hibs' chances v Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Accies scored as many goals in their last regular season game as Hibs scored in their last 14. Who do you fancy? Actually I think the break may have done Hibs some good, but they'll have to be better than they've been to win this. Off topic though, eh? Edited May 18, 2014 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Surprised Archie hasn't been more ruthless in his free transfers , don't know if I would have offered Lawless a new deal, undoubtably got ability but the physical aspect in our league doesn't suit him, to get new players in Archie might have to free up some money. There's going to be plenty of players looking for deals Gomis from DUFC is out of contract could be worth a look at, maybe Calum Booth from Hibs as a replacement for Sincy. Hopefully we can get Sean Welsh fit and maybe get Ozzie on a short term deal and if we get Lyle Taylor back that would be a huge bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Buaben is worth a new contract in my view. He's a player's player insofar as he does a lot of dirty work for which he won't get noticed, except from his team mates. However, for me it can only be one of Buaben or Osborne as they are so similar as players. Frankly it's for Archie to choose which one is of most benefit to Thistle. I can't see this at all. They are completely different. Osbourne gets around the park and hounds opposition players, he wins tackles. Bauben has more skill on the ball and is good at holding possession when you need to keep control of things but he is poor in the tackle. Any time I've actually seen him attempt to make a tackle the opposition player just brushes past him. He may chase back sometimes but he doesn't make it count the way Osbourne does - or anyone else for that matter. It might be worth signing Bauben as there may be games when his cooler, ball possession game will suit us but no way is he a ball winner. I'd sign him if we get all the players we really need - experienced centre half, left back, defensive mid and centre forward - and we've any spare cash but he wouldn't be the first player in my sights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I can't see this at all. They are completely different. Osbourne gets around the park and hounds opposition players, he wins tackles. Bauben has more skill on the ball and is good at holding possession when you need to keep control of things but he is poor in the tackle. Any time I've actually seen him attempt to make a tackle the opposition player just brushes past him. He may chase back sometimes but he doesn't make it count the way Osbourne does - or anyone else for that matter. It might be worth signing Bauben as there may be games when his cooler, ball possession game will suit us but no way is he a ball winner. I'd sign him if we get all the players we really need - experienced centre half, left back, defensive mid and centre forward - and we've any spare cash but he wouldn't be the first player in my sights. I don't see too much similarity between Bauben and Osbourne either. The former spends far more time in the opposition half and generally plays more forward. Osbourne prefers to get behind the ball more and wins far more tackles than Bauben. Prince tho' offers a bit more creatively tho' gets caught on the ball too often. Osbourne can also play in a couple of positions in defence.. I'd agree with Barney Rubble in so much as we probably don't require two central midfielders but they're two different types of players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Cairney was a very good finisher of chances and could add to the currently rather low goals tally from our midfielders. Having said that I would not see him as an automatic starter but more like handy bench fodder who could be given the challenge to try to force his way into the starting line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Are heath and overall fitness issues a thing of the past with Cairney? If so I could see PC being a useful squad player. It should be said McDaid is liable to be pushing for a similar role* in the not too distant future. eta * an attacking wide role that is. Edited May 18, 2014 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Cairney and Higgy behind Doolan or Taylor would be my preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 We need to focus on our defence that will determine our season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Are heath and overall fitness issues a thing of the past with Cairney? If so I could see PC being a useful squad player. It should be said McDaid is liable to be pushing for a similar role* in the not too distant future. eta * an attacking wide role that is. Well at least he has got this out the way http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27444172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I think Hemmings would be worth a punt if we can't get Taylor back. Similar sort of player and has excelled in the championship playing in a poor team - much like Boyd at Killie this season. I agree about Buaben and Osbourne - it's one or the other. I would say Buaben might be our best bet. Osbourne obviously wants to be close to his family and is undeniably injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Well at least he has got this out the way http://www.bbc.co.uk...w-west-27444172 He had been charged with a breach of the peace by engaging in a fight. Sheriff Baird told Mr Cairney: "It's completely clear who the aggressor was in this situation and it certainly wasn't you." Strathclyde's Finest keeping up their usual standards then ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Sheriff John Baird Sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudjag Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 David van zanten had left st mirren, potentially good signing I'm sure we could get him, wouldn't command a huge wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 We have two decent right backs. Why do we need another one who by all accounts has done nothing great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I think Hemmings would be worth a punt if we can't get Taylor back. Similar sort of player and has excelled in the championship playing in a poor team - much like Boyd at Killie this season. I think Hemmings would do well in this league, I'd definitely want us to go for him if Taylor wasn't coming back. van Zanten is a right-back and so not needed. That's before you even consider his ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I think Hemmings would do well in this league, I'd definitely want us to go for him if Taylor wasn't coming back. van Zanten is a right-back and so not needed. That's before you even consider his ability. Swindon evidently interested in Hemmings. Repeating myself from other threads but when we knocked back Hemmings last year no full time 1st Div club showed any interest. His two cameo roles as a trialist were far from disasters so I think you have to read between the lines. I wouldn't know whether the reason for not taking him on remains or Archie had such faith in Baird he only wanted a specialist striker and Hemmings didn't fit that bill. It's got to be said that Lyle Taylor puts himself about to a high degree and perhaps that's something you can't say about KH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 In reply to post 220 re David Van Zanten Because he has a fancy Dutch sounding name to help promote the reputation of Firhill as the home of total football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand2 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I suspect that I will probably be in a minority here but I wouldn't be averse to going back in for Brian Graham this summer. He's another player that United fans haven't particularly taken to despite averaging a goal every 199 minutes (stats taken from a United fan on another website so could easily be wrong). Archie was seemingly very keen to get him last year and he would certainly offer us something a bit different. It's all hypothetical though because United haven't shown any intention to let him go and with Erskine possibly being allowed to leave either permanently or on loan, I'm not sure they'd be too keen to let another under contract player depart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I suspect that I will probably be in a minority here but I wouldn't be averse to going back in for Brian Graham this summer. He's another player that United fans haven't particularly taken to despite averaging a goal every 199 minutes (stats taken from a United fan on another website so could easily be wrong). Archie was seemingly very keen to get him last year and he would certainly offer us something a bit different. It's all hypothetical though because United haven't shown any intention to let him go and with Erskine possibly being allowed to leave either permanently or on loan, I'm not sure they'd be too keen to let another under contract player depart. If it's between Taylor and Graham, I'd be chasing Taylor. If it's between Hemmings and Graham, I'd be chasing Hemmings. Put simply, he wouldn't be my first choice. Not saying he'd be a bad signing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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