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Today was the 3rd anniversary of Robert's death, this is the wreath we took up to his grave. There is a thread talking about Thistle being a family club, anyone reading this thread can see what a great club we are.

My sister managed to get all 3 goals on camera somehow. 5787CB82-8FD3-4DC8-B467-FB567C23A8A9.MP4 1FFA33D2-B973-488D-B192-B52282D72E07.MP4 AB970605-B5E6-4D93-B9C7-8613B568B095.MP4

Today was my boy’s first ever Jags match and my first for far too long. i thought that the team and support were superb. We were 4 or 5 goals better than that shocking Morton team - no football from them at all. Pretty much everyone played well, and the old school daftness in the shed (mainly but not all handbags) brought back some amusing memories of very similar. My wee boy whose only other game was Brighton / Leicester said it was his best day ever, he was buzzing from the atmosphere, the goals, and how nuts people were going compared to the more ‘reserved’ south east. was it just me, or was that penalty decision literally the worst ever?!? Who cares really given the result. so happy tonight.

A serious discussion will need to happen. But i think to respect Colin Weir's memory just now is not the time.

Seriously fed up with constant immature and frankly pathetic bickering on here. This isn't twitter, where any random person can turn up and badmouth any random person, and while there's not a lot can be done about it it's easily avoided. This forum is a relatively small community of Thistle fans who want to discuss Thistle. It might be online, but anyone coming on here and slagging other people and just basically looking for trouble is acting like the ar*ehole in the pub, attention seeking, dominating discussions and ruining it for everyone else. It's on virtually every thread and therefore difficult to avoid. The rest of us just have to scroll through it to find the decent conversation which is regularly drowned out. I'd ask people to stop, but I know that won't help. Anyway.

May be of interest to the forum. I have sent the following email to the Club ([email protected] and [email protected]). I will let you know if/when I receive a reply

I like Stuart Bannigan and am delighted he's signed. To be honest l'd rather he went to Aberdeen and didn't suffer that terrible injury because he was one who, at that point in his career, could really have kicked on and done well. I think it's a big pity he never got that chance. But given how things played out, l personally think we done the right thing sticking by him during the injury - it was the decent thing to do and was to Archie's credit that we treated Stuart as a person and not a commodity. If he had never kicked another ball for Thistle, l would have been content that we stuck with him. Recently when he hasn't at his best, l don't remember thinking that Stuart Bannigan has hidden during games. Or not tried. Nor given the impression he couldn't care less. That can't be easy, especially when you know you're not playing well in a poor team. If l was in the current Thistle team (a middle aged man can dream!) and was asked to pick the players l wanted to start an end of season do-or-die match with me, the first name l would put is Stuart Bannigan. For me he defines an attitude that you want beside you on the pitch. We have seen, signed and persevered with players a lot worse than Stuart Bannigan. If he performs like he has recently, l can't think of many l would have before and rather than Stuart Bannigan.

I’ve decided to give posting in this thread a break for now. Mainly because I see the arguments going round in circles and getting more personal as time goes ever so slowly by. I am getting more convinced by the day that the sale to the consortium is already a done deal. I am a staunch advocate for social ownership. Not just for football clubs but in many areas of society. Land ownership, housing, community centres, leisure facilities and power generation just to name a few. I do believe ordinary people can run social enterprises for the benefit of the community they are a part of. We do not always need external experts or professional business people to run our lives for us. If we take the opportunity we can shape our own society to the way that suits us best. So, to me Thistle fans owning their own club is a no-brainer and I believe it may be the only way for us to have a Partick Thistle we can continue to support and be proud of. We will be able to support our team to succeed on the pitch for footballing reasons and not because it brings a profit to shareholders whose only interest in PTFC is to make money. We want teams who do well and win because they are OUR teams and not because we can squeeze a bit more cash from the club. Football would be the biggest factor in our interest. Not just looking for a financial return by getting higher in the league. . We would be building and preserving the club for our children and grandchildren. Much of the objections on this thread have become personality driven. The people behind the move towards fan ownership are disliked by some posters. Others have a dislike to other personalities and nothing they do will ever be right with them. Some have a mistrust running so deep they wouldn’t believe the time of day from any of the other side. Then on the other hand there’s people who staunchly back the consortium purely because they trust the current chair and because he says it’s a good idea. They back his plans no matter how vague and indeterminate they are. Well as I said I am all for fan ownership and as of yet there is no hard and fast template for how that would go with Thistle. But the fact is it is fans who will shape the future of the organisation which will run the club if they decide to go down that road. The more fans who become involved the wider the knowledge base to draw on. The more ideas there will be to choose from. So if the TFE ideas do move on to a further stage I will be ready to step up to do what I can. But until then I will watch things unfold and I only hope that by the time things do become a bit clearer that it’s not too late.

Disappointing to see a Jags fan gloating about this. But not surprising.

I know I will be criticised but I think this is an excellent statement. I have said I would like nothing better than to stuff these so-so's in court. But this is a short term emotional response that we know from previous experience will not win. A legal response is the easy course of action and whether or not we end up in the Championship or League 1 will make it very difficult for Budge to support us by winning others over to her argument that there are wrongs that need to be corrected. This statement, which I do think is the difficult but strong course of action, accepts we will face challenges but focuses our efforts on the football field and on the longer term. Also by not taking action that could put clubs out of business by denying them much needed cash we are showing them up by demonstrating we are not doing what they have done and that we are morally and ethically better! I think the statement gives Budge a lot to work with and unlike Dundee, Raith, Forfar,or the SPFL Board puts us on the high moral ground. A lot of hogwash many on here will say and I understand that view! However all we need to do is put a winning team on the park and then you will see the benefits of the club's statement and chosen course of action. In spite of my arguments above I do feel we should do something to demonstrate our disgust at the manner in which we have been treated. 1. Attend Home matches only (exceptions being other no voters) 2. Stop running buses to away games and ask fans who travel by other means not do do so. 3. Donate gate money that would have been spent attending away games to PTFC and to any other No club who are having Cash problems. 4. When Yes clubs and Directors come to Firhill - give them hell, eg "Nelms is a????" chant! Also write to Club ask them to offer minimum courtesy etc! We can call it cost cutting! Have I missed anything. Very sorry for length of post!!

I’ve probably been a right argumentative d!ck to many of you on here over the years. But I think the events of the last few weeks have put a perspective on there’s really more to life than football. As disappointing as relegation would be if it happened that the season officially ended today and the league placing stood it will be worth putting up with, if as much as one life is saved. most importantly I hope all of the Partick Thistle family keep safe so we are all here to agree/argue with each other for next season. Keep safe everyone

This is a photo i took of young Robert at half time of that game.

Like dogs after a bone. Folk have tried being polite, jokey ways to try to get this to stop. I've had enough. Look up. The whole ******* world is in crisis. People are dying in their thousands. If you're around in a years time then lucky you, resume your point scoring exercise then. But in the mean time just stop. Make yourself useful. Help someone in need. If you can't do that, just shut the **** up.

Well done to both of our U18s who started today for Scottish Schools U18 against Northern Ireland with Gospel scoring our goal in a 1-1 draw. Whilst there are areas that definitely need to improve at our club there are still positives out there

It's Harkins' Nutritionist, Ronald McDonald.

Disappointed about this on a number of fronts. I thought this was a major step forward for Thistle as a club, not only by providing better training for the senior players and making us more attractive to sign with, but also making us more attractive to the parents of youngsters when considering offers to sign, not to mention how much more attractive we'd be for clubs looking to put players out on loan. On another level, I think it's really disappointing that Davie McParland and his family were told that the proposed training ground would bare his name and that this is no longer going to happen. It feels like we've let them down. I hope that in the fulness of time something will be done about rectifying this.

I'm not going to quote the nonsense that's appearing on here in support of the consortium bid - plenty of other folk have rightly picked it apart as the drivel it is. Let's be clear, if we sell the club to a group of venture capitalists because they're 'business people' then we deserve all we get. And what we WON'T get is a successful football club. At best, it'll be an incubation pod for young footballers who we'll get to watch for precisely as long as it takes to transfer them out for as much money as possible. Money which will then go to the owners, not the club. To dismiss every concern about New City Finance as just fans being fickle is ridiculous. There's no evidence that these people have benefited either of the clubs they've been involved with! Why should we welcome them to Firhill? Because they're 'business people'?! They're here to make money, not to benefit Partick Thistle. And anyone who thinks the two inevitably go hand in hand are mistaking a financially successful company with a successful sporting organisation - they're not necessarily the same. I'm sick to the back teeth of reading about people who 'aren't against fan ownership', but have done everything in their power to belittle and sneer at any attempt to put it in place at Thistle. Much as I disagree with fellow Thistle fans about, well, almost everything, I'd rather have Thistle fans owning the club than a bunch of money vampires.

Good news, Frank is now home from hospital. Lets hope for a speedy recovery.

I expect Brownlie to be a big upgrade on McGinty (though that's not exactly difficult). Rudden looks a decent signing. Miller stopped scoring after a decent start (and his goals per minutes on the pitch ratio this season is behind Doolan's last season). More importantly, it feels that there is a plan behind the signings, which I simply didn't get with Caldwell. Graham is a very different type of striker to Miller, and has been signed to be a target man (which we've not had in a while). Rudden is different again and should complement Graham (hopefully). And as you say, the squad now has better balance. There's always a limit to what you can realistically achieve in a January window, particularly when you're at the bottom of the Championship. In that regard, this window has (or at least feels) been better than expected. I know that doesn't mean it won't all go tits up, though- only time will tell.

Over the years this forum has done a number of good things. Raising money for Thistle by sponsoring players, Doolan 100 goals presentation and on a personal note the tributes for young Robert after he passed away are something myself and Eunice will always be very grateful for. But recently some posters do not accept that there can be more than one opinion on a subject. We are all Thistle supporters and just because somebody has a different opinion from you, doesn't make their point any less relevant, or them any less of a Thistle fan than you.

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There is nothing inherently good about 'Business'. The fact that people set up organisations to make money for their own self-interest doesn't make them competent or trustworthy. The assumption that the role of any football club, and their fans, is to simply hand over their resources and money to such organisations because they 'know what they're doing' is risible. 'Business models' have created huge amounts of human misery and led to the downfall of not a few football clubs along the way. There is an inherent snobbishness about many of the comments on here about the money invested in the club by Colin Weir - he only won it, he didn't get it by running a successful business ( in other words, making profits from other people), so it's not the kind of money we want. It's a 'comfort blanket', it's only a subsidy, it'll run out. Colin Weir's millions are just as relevant as the guy Conway. More so, in my opinion, as he didn't gain them through venture capitalism. Conway and his ilk are parasites. I don't want them anywhere near Thistle.

I've been reading Thistle forums for, I think, 20 years going back to the first days of Over Land and Sea. This is, without a doubt, the worst thread I've ever read on any of the various sites over the years. Anyway, carry on.

Makes sense. And also explains the missing letter in Cappielow.

We should never lose sight that one of the daily stats are deaths and no matter how small, it still means somebody has lost their life and a family is mourning a loved one, or in some cases more than 1 family member.

I pass by the old ground most days on one my constitutionals and took this picture of a truly resplendent Firhill basking in the glorious sunshine...a big thanks to the ground staff for keeping it tip top .

I don't know if this comes under fiduciary duties or not, but if I was a director of an SPFL club I'd be questioning the financial wisdom of forking out £388K to hire a ******* clown.

1120 victims only because we have taken extraordinary measures to keep the numbers down. The hospitals are full of desperately sick patients and health care workers are dying trying to treat them. Please don't put flu in the same sentence. I understand the economic damage that is being done. I work freelance and my industry has been completely shut down and will be one of the last to start up again. I have no income and precious little help from the government. I get it. We will have to find a way through this. A path to the 'new normal'. But we are at an early stage of living with Covid-19. Personally, I'm happy that the Scottish Government's approach is about looking after the health of its citizens first and foremost. It should be the first duty of any government. Rather that than the Trump/Johnson vision of opening everything up asap so that their pals can carry on making money and to hell with the risks. The document published today by the government is the first step along the road to the new normal. It is their starting point. Don't hold your breath waiting for such clarity from Downing Street.

Anyone who is flemish should be self-isolating imo!

Nae luck.

Because a group of existing investors decided to sell their shareholding to a man who'd underlined his support for fan ownership. It's really that simple. I don't know what you and others expect to gain from going over old ground again and again and again and again... This is the reality of the situation.

Can we please please please get rid of Kenny Miller? He’s absolutely done and his attitude is stinking. Others played worse but he is atrocious.

Re Bannigan. Been very impressed with him recently and feel he is at last getting back to the Bannigan of old. When assessing his performance I think we have to allow for the psychological as well as the physical trauma he has suffered. Think about it! A player approaching the prime of his career playing great football and on the verge of signing for a top SPL or English Championship Club. A move which would secure his financial future! He picks up an injury that keeps him out of the game for 2 years and at one point it looked like he may never play again. He has had to put up with a lot including poor initial medical advice on how to treat the injury and of course his own thoughts on where he might have been had he not sustained the injury in the first place. A situation that could knock the stuffing out of a lesser man. He has probably only recently reached the stage where he has psychologically come to terms with his situation and physically completed his recovery in the fullest sense. Also invigorated by a manager who knows how to manage and who has publicly declared his faith in the player I suspect Bannigan is at last focusing on the future and with growing confidence. Hence his good and improving performances. No more injury 'excuses' are appropriate for 'that' injury for Stuart Bannigan. I think for the player it is well and truly in the past. Best of luck to him for the future. (Apologies for length of post) .

What Colin Weir did for our Club can never be underestimated, debt free , Academy started , ownership of the whole ground again. That is Colin Weirs legacy, I hope he gets a fantastic send off.

Mr Angry does question time.... how would I know ? Do i care....not sure I do until I know what you mean im giving Colin weir my support until I have reason not too....so far he’s 1. saved the club from the Barnsley buffoons 2. bought out propco and given the club the whole stadium back 3. pledged to put the club into fan/ community ownership by April 4. funded the academy till the end of 2021 5, given the women’s teams additional support 6. pledged to support the manager in the January window 7. looking at getting us a training facility how about supporting him rather than sniping from the sidelines

Glad they got your e-mail.

F**k's that got to do with today's vote? Change the record!!!

Update from Scott lifted from Facebook. Contrary to popular belief I do have a brain. My scan pic from the specialist this morning showing the stroke. My blood pressure topped out at 226/156.. MRI scan horrific. "Thank you all for the lovely messages you had me in tears the other night, I cant reply to them it's taken me all my time to write this. Prognosis is looking good although i need to make some changes. Voice and balance still all over the place. Shattered, and away for rest."

The reason we can't get consensus on what the leagues should look like is that we have diametrically opposed outcomes. One is the best entertainment for fans and a stable platform to develop Scottish football and footballers in the whole. Larger leagues (more stable) with minimal relegation but maximum opportunity for promotion (playoffs). The other is entirely based on greed and serving a TV contract that satisfies the expectation of people outside of Scotland but only serves to magnify the gulf between the holy twins in Scotland; and a handful of clubs clinging to their skirts hoping for crumbs. The first is all about 'sporting integrity' while the second is about supporting £380,000 salaries for blazer wearing cretans and leeches. Of course, as we've seen, the boards of Scottish football clubs are extremely short sighted so we can expect them to come up with short sighted plans that benefit them in the coming weeks and months. So I'll be very surprised if we see anything that will improve the match day experience for the majority fans in Scotland as a whole being announced by the BudgeGrey committee.

That's it done my first ever season ticket purchased! Feels great having my very own seat at Firhill - mine, mine mine. Bring on the mighty Peterhead!

A couple of questions. What game was that? And, are they climbing in or climbing out?

Yesterday I reached the ripe old age of 80. At 10am my house received a call from Jacqui Low, unfortunately I was out at the time, but a message was left on the phone. Just after 12o'clock I answered the phone to Jacqui Low who congratulated me on my birthday. We spoke for nearly 20 minutes just talking about the "Jags" Before we closed the call she said she would phone in a couple of weeks just to see how I was getting along in this difficult time, she also said when the footie starts again, she would try and get me up to Firhill for a birthday prezzie. This is why I support Partick Thistle. The Partick Thistle family club. Love you all.

The removal of Jim Oliver as Honorary President as soon as the new board came in was wrong. This is a guy who invested millions into the club, built 2 stands, got us to top league for first time in a decade and also wrote of over a million to save the club during STJ whilst also then diluting his shareholding for creation of The Trust and was unceremoniously deleted from the history books. Oliver put more into the club and did more than any other director or investor.

Why are many posters so defensive.? A guy says in conversation that yes the perception is that our Club is a bit of a shambles at the moment - quell surprise. Folk have been saying that on here for months. It is his view- he is not trying to impose it on anyone else or to make a public point about it. He said it in conversation with Kingleo- the type of conversation that goes on every day throughout the country. Kingleo has, quite correctly, chosen not to reveal which Club the guy is connected with - he was simply making the point that the perception many have, is shared by a Board member of another Championship Club. If the guy is wrong and actually the Club is running perfectly like a well oiled machine with everyone knowing their roles and responsibilities and working to their maximum potential- that's great . What harm has been done by this guy expressing an opinion in a private conversation. If, as I expect, there is a large dose of truth in what he says, then it is useful for the Fans to be aware that there may well be issues at Boardroom level. Don't shoot the messenger. isdcommon

A lovely story with our own Kenny Arthur at the heart of it... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50856749

The two goalies meet, brilliant stuff... https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18171432.kai-evitt-surprises-kenny-arthur-say-thanks-special-gloves/

Only Thistle could lose an imaginary play off!

All this rubbish about us having relegation form is absolute mince. This is the current form so if it stays consistent we will be well clear of the bottom two teams come May. Can we stop the knee jerk reactions to losing a match please?

We’ve had a difficult couple of years as a Club. But let’s all get behind McCall and the team in 2020. Yes the Club is in transition off the field, but hopefully something good & sustainable emerges. HNY to all Jags fans around the globe!