MonehJags Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Booth is another who needs to shape up or ship out. I thought it was just going forward where he lacked but recently he seems to get turned inside out too easily. Either he improves or we need another full back Azeez, enough has been said an seen. We need to bring in a half decent striker. Centre backs. We defended brilliantly for 80 minutes against sevco then two lapses in concentration cost us. This will probably be the biggest area which remains unclear, who is staying and who is going. Jack Hendry would be a good fit if possible. We have an abundance of midfielders although we could do with an upgrade of Amoo, a player who is willing to beat his man. Easier said than done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Booth is another who needs to shape up or ship out. I thought it was just going forward where he lacked but recently he seems to get turned inside out too easily. I have to say, I think that is a tad harsh in my opinion. But, Booth does seem to give away a number of free-kicks in dangerous areas by continuing to grab the jersey after he's been beaten. I think that happened at least twice on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Similar, but not very similar. Buchanan scored on average in 36% of games played for Thistle (84), Baird in 0% (13 games). Buchanan has scored in 47% of games played for Livi (66), Baird in 37% of games for Falkirk (87). If we were realistically interested in either as a squad player, on those figures alone I think there's a stronger case for...... one of the two! No no, neither Buchanan nor Baird. They had their chance at Thistle. We need some fresh blood, not ex-players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Shankland maybe out of contract in a few weeks at Aberdeen. Worth investing in or possibly a loan deal if he re-signs? I mean if he's willing to take a loan deal/stay with Morton on a permanent basis then he's potential affordable right? Or is he too unproven at this level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Reading some of the signing suggestions on this thread, I'm glad it's up to Archie to source our new players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Shankland maybe out of contract in a few weeks at Aberdeen. Worth investing in or possibly a loan deal if he re-signs? I mean if he's willing to take a loan deal/stay with Morton on a permanent basis then he's potential affordable right? Or is he too unproven at this level? With 4 goals in 33 games for St Mirren and Morton this season, you can safely say he isn't even proven at Championship level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 No no, neither Buchanan nor Baird. They had their chance at Thistle. We need some fresh blood, not ex-players I don't understand this resistance to signing ex-players per se. For example, I think Erskine's been an asset in both his first return (loan) and second return to the club. (I'm not suggesting we should sign Buchanan or Baird by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I don't understand this resistance to signing ex-players per se. For example, I think Erskine's been an asset in both his first return (loan) and second return to the club. (I'm not suggesting we should sign Buchanan or Baird by the way) The resistance is due to the fact that most of the ex-players are performing in a lower division. And are not outstanding at that level either. Erskine's been an asset but he left us to go to a premier club and came back having done OK (he was getting games then manager changed and he was dropped hence his signing a pre contract for us - which kept him in a premier club). Taking a chance on some youngster who is looking good at a lower level is a different thing but I don't think we're in that market anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The resistance is due to the fact that most of the ex-players are performing in a lower division. And are not outstanding at that level either. Erskine's been an asset but he left us to go to a premier club and came back having done OK (he was getting games then manager changed and he was dropped hence his signing a pre contract for us - which kept him in a premier club). Taking a chance on some youngster who is looking good at a lower level is a different thing but I don't think we're in that market anyway. So the issue is the players mentioned don't appear to be good enough- not that they're ex-players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 There are several ex jags doing fine at lower levels, some I thought would be great in the PL but failed. Delighted they are doing well but Archie knows they are not good enough. I have seen Shankland twice at Morton. Utterly useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (I'm not suggesting we should sign Buchanan or Baird by the way) And neither was I Nor Higginbotham who is staying at E End Pk. anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) There are several ex jags doing fine at lower levels, some I thought would be great in the PL but failed. Delighted they are doing well but Archie knows they are not good enough. I have seen Shankland twice at Morton. Utterly useless. Ross Forbes is probably the ex-Jag who has had the best season at Championship level, although James Craigen is coming with a late run. I presume no way back for either of them and best to remain as fond memories. Edited May 17, 2017 by partickthedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Ross Forbes is probably the ex-Jag who has had the best season at Championship level, although James Craigen is coming with a late run. I presume no way back for either of them and best to remain as fond memories. Cracking goal by Craigen at Tannadice the other night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Jordan Jones is yet to sign a contract at Kilmarnock, he would be a good signing if we managed to attract him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Pie and Bovril rumours Amoo, Ridgers and Welsh away. Fraser has been offered a 6 month contract and all the dev players over 19 apart from Nisbet have been released. Also Simon Murray has signed a pre contract. If these are true I am a bit surprised about Sean Welsh, as he has had one of his best seasons and also a bit surprised that Gary Fraser is getting a contract, though maybe Sean has decided it's time to move on. Time will tell. Edited May 19, 2017 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Cracking goal by Craigen at Tannadice the other night. and another one tonight. James certainly likes a goal in vital games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 If we have got Murray on a pre contract, he will be a terrific signing going by tonight's game. Has ran himself into the ground and got the vital equaliser. United in play off final after being outplayed for most if the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 If we have got Murray on a pre contract, he will be a terrific signing going by tonight's game. Has ran himself into the ground and got the vital equaliser. United in play off final after being outplayed for most if the game with the amount of goals he has scored in these playoffs and it being united will they not just rip up any alleged pre contract. We know from past experience as do Queen's Park that United don't tend to play ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Theres no way we will get simon murray, if he doesnt sign on again at united there will be teams down south watching him. He is a terrific player, exactly what we are after as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 with the amount of goals he has scored in these playoffs and it being united will they not just rip up any alleged pre contract. We know from past experience as do Queen's Park that United don't tend to play ball Wouldn't think they could do that, though I dare say if they get back up, Murray might change his mind. Not sure how binding a pre contract is (if indeed it is the case that he has signed one with us) He gave 110% tonight and given how lack lustre we were last night he looks like he would be a great signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Theres no way we will get simon murray, if he doesnt sign on again at united there will be teams down south watching him. He is a terrific player, exactly what we are after as well I would be surprised, but plenty of people saying its a done deal. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 If it was a done deal, why has it not been announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Pre contracts aren't binding, see Richard Brittan and Ross County / St Johnstone a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Pre contracts aren't binding, see Richard Brittan and Ross County / St Johnstone a couple of years ago. so when Paton and Erskine signed in 2013 we could have torn them up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 If it was a done deal, why has it not been announced? Who knows. He might have asked to keep it quiet until the play offs are over. There have been rumours for about a month now and plenty of them. Don't think we will need to wait too long to see if it's true or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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