The Thistle Archive Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Reserves database re-launched → As many of you may know, we launched our Reserves section back in January (up to 1890-91) and promised there'd be much more to follow soon. We (well, our Jack mainly) had a rethink! Jack's been working on this labour-of-love for many years and, being quite 'Thistle mad' (aren't we all?), he's decided to make it even harder for himself by writing potted reports for thousands of these reserve games to match the same first-team exercise. Well, if a job's worth doing... Reserve football gets very little coverage. When complete, our Archive will be offering you the most comprehensive record of Thistle’s reserve fixtures, results and team selections ever compiled. The full Partick Thistle reserves database will be spread over all 143 of the active seasons from 1877 to date, and will include almost 4,000 matches. We won't go so deep as to have complex match hubs for each game, but we'll fill the season-by-season pages with lots of good basic information wherever possible, including players and scorers if we can. A results summary table will be included at the footer of every season for your 'at-a-glance' analysis benefit. Today's "re-launch" now runs to 1898-99 (the first League season) at the moment, and you'll see that these re-designed pages now house a dedicated (dark blue) line for potted match reports wherever possible. In these early years you will note a great many games you never knew we played against loads of teams you've never heard of (neither had we)! Links below: 1875-76 (Reserves), 1876-77 (Reserves), 1877-78 (Reserves), 1878-79 (Reserves), 1879-80 (Reserves), 1880-81 (Reserves), 1881-82 (Reserves), 1882-83 (Reserves), 1883-84 (Reserves), 1884-85 (Reserves), 1885-86 (Reserves), 1886-87 (Reserves), 1887-88 (Reserves), 1888-89 (Reserves), 1889-90 (Reserves), 1890-91 (Reserves), 1891-92 (Reserves), 1892-93 (Reserves), 1893-94 (Reserves), 1894-95 (Reserves), 1895-96 (Reserves), 1896-97 (Reserves), 1897-98 (Reserves), 1898-99 (Reserves). The vast majority of fixtures we'll be loading over the next few months relate to seasons where shirt numbers actually meant something so look out for players who started in one or more position(s), yet became a club legend in another. Watch too for scoring feats that barely got a mention – the mysterious “Phillips” who scored 8 against Brechin city on 23/2/1929 yet there is no record he ever played for the club again and McKay’s first half 5-goal haul against Falkirk on 14/12/1929. Who were the hundreds of unknown trialists? Did they ever make the grade? Compilation is hampered by lack of coverage but the search goes on. In the meantime we must pay tribute to the club’s Honorary President Robert Reid for the hundreds of reserve match reports published in club programmes over the seasons. These will form the basis of many of the potted reports. Enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Wonderful effort!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I remember when I played one a side football against my son, the two sides were the best two teams in Scotland, Partick Thistle and Partick Thistle Reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 3/2/2023 at 2:26 PM, lady-isobel-barnett said: If The Thistle Archive used the media for their info they'd be scratching their heads wondering "Duke Gekantawa-Where is he now?" and just where yon Doohlan fella ranked on the goal scoring list. They’d be hard pressed to find Lawleff too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, sandy said: They’d be hard pressed to find Lawleff too Although that would be an OK spelling if we were in the 18th century...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, sandy said: They’d be hard pressed to find Lawleff too Perhaps Thistle Archive have built up a gloffary for such occasions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 Fmafhing idea LIB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Another 25 seasons of reserves has been uploaded to the Archive for your interest, from 1899-00 to 1923-24. There's lots to explore… click on any season to do so (itallics = no matches found/played) enjoy! 1875-76 1876-77 1877-78 1878-79 1879-80 1880-81 1881-82 1882-83 1883-84 1884-85 1885-86 1886-87 1887-88 1888-89 1889-90 1890-91 1891-92 1892-93 1893-94 1894-95 1895-96 1896-97 1897-98 1898-99 1899-00 1900-01 1901-02 1902-03 1903-04 1904-05 1905-06 1906-07 1907-08 1908-09 1909-10 1910-11 1911-12 1912-13 1913-14 1914-15 1915-16 1916-17 1917-18 1918-19 1919-20 1920-21 1921-22 1922-23 1923-24 Some of the key moments so far… 1876-77 - The first-known reserves match is played versus Partick Ramblers. 1877-78 - 11 reserve fixtures uncovered, including the first win, a 4-0 success over the Paperstainers of Whiteinch. 1877-78 - P. Buchan and R. McFedries the first-known scorers in a 2-0 win over Surrey in the Queen's Park. 1879-80 - Thistle's first-ever match at Firhill!!! 1879-80 - The first known reserves match versus an opponent who still exist. 1882-83 - The first competitive fixture is also the first Scottish (2nd XI) Cup match, only the second season of the tournament itself. 1883-84 - The first competitive win is achieved, and it's in the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup. 1883-84 - 17-year-old Willie Paul makes an early mark with a hat-trick over Partick. 1886-87 - The record victory is set. 1887-88 - Two trips to England! 1888-89 - A trip to Ireland! 1897-98 - Reserves reach the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final. 1898-99 - The first-ever "League" (Scottish Federation) season, but a one-off for a number years. 1905-06 - The second Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final. 1909-10 - The first reserves match at the Stadium of Dreams, good old Queen's Park the visitors. 1910-11 - Now settled in Maryhill, Thistle take part (for the first time) in the second edition of the newly reformed Scottish Reserve League. 1911-12 - The third Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final and the reserves become the first Partick Thistle side to play "home and home" as the two-legged "home and away" ties were initially described! 1911-12 - Partick Thistle FC become the champions of Scotland, winning the Scottish Reserve League with 2 games to spare. 10,000 watch the vital win at Ibrox. 1913-14 - The first Cup is won as Thistle defeat Rangers 2-0 in the Glasgow (2nd XI) Cup final. 1919-20 - After 4 seasons of abeyance, reserves football is back in the Thistle calendar, the Scottish Reserve League being renamed the Scottish Alliance. 1920-21 - Reserves exit to Rangers at the Quarter Final stage of the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup. 4 weeks later, the first eleven would take revenge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael m Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, The Thistle Archive said: Another 25 seasons of reserves has been uploaded to the Archive for your interest, from 1899-00 to 1923-24. There's lots to explore… click on any season to do so (itallics = no matches found/played) enjoy! 1875-76 1876-77 1877-78 1878-79 1879-80 1880-81 1881-82 1882-83 1883-84 1884-85 1885-86 1886-87 1887-88 1888-89 1889-90 1890-91 1891-92 1892-93 1893-94 1894-95 1895-96 1896-97 1897-98 1898-99 1899-00 1900-01 1901-02 1902-03 1903-04 1904-05 1905-06 1906-07 1907-08 1908-09 1909-10 1910-11 1911-12 1912-13 1913-14 1914-15 1915-16 1916-17 1917-18 1918-19 1919-20 1920-21 1921-22 1922-23 1923-24 Some of the key moments so far… 1876-77 - The first-known reserves match is played versus Partick Ramblers. 1877-78 - 11 reserve fixtures uncovered, including the first win, a 4-0 success over the Paperstainers of Whiteinch. 1877-78 - P. Buchan and R. McFedries the first-known scorers in a 2-0 win over Surrey in the Queen's Park. 1879-80 - Thistle's first-ever match at Firhill!!! 1879-80 - The first known reserves match versus an opponent who still exist. 1882-83 - The first competitive fixture is also the first Scottish (2nd XI) Cup match, only the second season of the tournament itself. 1883-84 - The first competitive win is achieved, and it's in the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup. 1883-84 - 17-year-old Willie Paul makes an early mark with a hat-trick over Partick. 1886-87 - The record victory is set. 1887-88 - Two trips to England! 1888-89 - A trip to Ireland! 1897-98 - Reserves reach the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final. 1898-99 - The first-ever "League" (Scottish Federation) season, but a one-off for a number years. 1905-06 - The second Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final. 1909-10 - The first reserves match at the Stadium of Dreams, good old Queen's Park the visitors. 1910-11 - Now settled in Maryhill, Thistle take part (for the first time) in the second edition of the newly reformed Scottish Reserve League. 1911-12 - The third Scottish (2nd XI) Cup final and the reserves become the first Partick Thistle side to play "home and home" as the two-legged "home and away" ties were initially described! 1911-12 - Partick Thistle FC become the champions of Scotland, winning the Scottish Reserve League with 2 games to spare. 10,000 watch the vital win at Ibrox. 1913-14 - The first Cup is won as Thistle defeat Rangers 2-0 in the Glasgow (2nd XI) Cup final. 1919-20 - After 4 seasons of abeyance, reserves football is back in the Thistle calendar, the Scottish Reserve League being renamed the Scottish Alliance. 1920-21 - Reserves exit to Rangers at the Quarter Final stage of the Scottish (2nd XI) Cup. 4 weeks later, the first eleven would take revenge! I thought everyone knew all of that already! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Interesting that Rovers and Wanderers caught on as football club names, but Ramblers didn't.... nor Paperstainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpj Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Question for the archivists. I was thinking this on way home last night, is this the longest season we have ever had? Without a break for world cup/winter break etc our first competitive game was on July 9th 2022 and our final game will be on 4th June 2023, almost 11 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted May 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Yes! At 348 days ('All Games') it's going to break the existing record by 10 days and at 330 days ('Competitive') it's going to break the existing record by 4 days. You'll find this in the 'lists' page in 'club records' section... Record season lengths → Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 When was the last time we played the last competitive game of the domestic season? 1930? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CillitB4ng Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: When was the last time we played the last competitive game of the domestic season? 1930? When we got promoted at Peterhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, CillitB4ng said: When we got promoted at Peterhead. Oh. Was that after the cup final? Can't remember, I was in India at the time and listening on shortwave radio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Isn’t the premiership final usually after the Scottish cup final ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted June 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 Excellent, Paul Ritchie had the honour of the dramatic last act of that season! Today, the Jags will attempt to be promoted for the 12th time, but, if it happens, it won't be the first for June. Although they'd won the Second Division, the very first promotion (in 1897) didn't become the reality until the election vote at the League AGM on 1st June! Weird fact... in the competitive H2H with Ross County, the Jags have won more often in Dingwall (11 times) than they have in Maryhill (10 times). Here's hoping we can break the 4th team hoodoo today... “Records have to be broken at some point. So, why not us?” ~ Kris Doolan, May, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 That’s some amount of records broken already - here’s hoping for just one more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Lenziejag said: That’s some amount of records broken already - here’s hoping for just one more. I wouldn't be surprised if if we now also have a long list of unenviable records regarding the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 A couple of cool new pages added to the Archive today, inspired by Scotland. Thistle have done well against Norwegian, Spanish and Cypriot sides, losing just once in 14 games! In total, Thistle have played 241 matches against opponents from 24 countries aside from Scotland. As well as the summary table, our new page lists each match alphabetically by country then club... Results Summary: Non-Scottish (All Games), by country → Thistle's 241 foreign jousts have resulted in 139 non Scottish opponents from Aalborg to Zagreb. As well as a summary table, our second new lists each match chronologically... Results Summary: Non-Scottish (All Games), by opponent → 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Brilliant! Now there's a challenge for any aspiring programme collector..... I wonder how many of those matches had a programme or team-sheet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Wasn't all that long ago that we discovered the oldest known footage of Partick Thistle in action at Firhill (1956) and now - the second oldest, wow! Treasured glimpses from the excellent new Archie McPherson episode of the BBC Icons series... 14-Sep-1968 Partick Thistle 4 Clyde 0 (SFL First Division - game 2) → Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Great stuff! Is it too much to hope for, that the entire footage still exists and might be unearthed one day...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Changed days when the 2nd league game is 14th September. These days we’ve played about 1/4 of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 I'd call that a bargain The best we ever had The best we ever had!. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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