Hamilton Academical 🔴⚪️ vs Partick Thistle 🔴 🟡

[King Kenny]

I'm not sure I buy in to the idea that Graham's involvement with the Women's team is having an adverse effect on his performance on a Saturday. It didn't seem to hamper him last year on his way to being Championship player of the year. 

Who's to say he doesn't do his recovery work before taking the team in the afternoon?

I'd say last year was a bit of an outlier when it came to how prolific his goal scoring was. He's always scored plenty but last season was immense. 

It was always likely he'd find it tougher this season. He's not getting any younger, that is true, but our attack on the whole hasn't clicked at all yet so he's been starved of service. His body language through the games has been poor, he's frustrated and could do with a spell on the bench. 

Our squad doesn't have a suitable replacement at the minute, that isn't Graham's fault. 

Doolan has an inflated squad but we've still managed to be short in some important areas. He needs to make some brave decisions in the coming weeks, his job will come down to how we get on in our next 3 home games. I don't think it is unfair to say that less than 7 points and he's probably looking at being replaced. 

That might mean dropping Graham, for his sake as much as the team. He's the type of player who will always have belief in himself, perhaps dropping out of the team will give him the fire he needs. I wouldn't write him off just yet, if we can get the attack working again I'd expect him back in to double figures. 

It is up to Doolan to find a solution to make that happen. 

Edited Tuesday at 11:27 AM by King Kenny

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Apart from fitness, stamina etc there's three aspects to assessing Graham as a player*.  

1/Number of goals scored against sitters missed, positioning when scoring chances created.

2/Link up play, back to the goal stuff, assists etc.

3/Amount of quality service he receives.

*Apart from the occasional heid gone moments I doubt his captaincy is in question.

Generalising I know but I reckon No3 is in his favour. He's not receiving enough quality balls either from wide positions or thru midfield.

No 2 isn't ever Brian's strongest suit, which exasperates things if he ain't scoring.

Re No 1, because of poor service it's perhaps unfair to assess Graham's current goal conversion rate. Just not enough data.

It's all very much a management problem. Players get dropped all the time for tactical purposes even if they don't deserve to miss out. There's no reason whatsoever that makes Graham undroppable. That said it's far from clear to me whether dropping Brian is an answer.

 

[laukat]

Brian Graham will score goals if chances are made. Our problem is we make almost no chances currently.

From what I have seen this season there is only one game where we have created chances that I would have expected Graham to score and that was against an exceptionally poor Queens Park.

His involvement with the Women's team is so unlikely to be a factor that I find it crazy to think its being mentioned.

That being said if Ablade was fit I wouldn't be adverse to giving him a go as sole striker just to provide Graham a rest. Diack isn't ready to start and putting Diack in means we persevere with the same style of play. whereas Ablade means we need to change.

[jagfox]

Strange thing is the manager's recruitment seemed to be a lot to do with creating chances for Graham but none have worked out well so far. Daniel MacKay looked good, Chalmers hasn't hit much in the way of meaningful form. Ablade hasn't built any real understanding with Graham and Fitzpatrick has only shown his ability in glimpses on the other flank.

This group of players should be creating far more opportunities for Graham or their other team mates but we're lucky to have created a handful of meaningful chances in the last few games.

Back to the manager to sort that out while he still has the chance, imo.

Edited Tuesday at 09:49 PM by jagfox

[1876]

He has brought in attacking players but plays defensive football.   Let's go with 4 3 3 or 3 4 3 and  put the opposition on the back foot 

[jlsarmy]

1 hour ago, laukat said:

Brian Graham will score goals if chances are made. Our problem is we make almost no chances currently.

From what I have seen this season there is only one game where we have created chances that I would have expected Graham to score and that was against an exceptionally poor Queens Park.

His involvement with the Women's team is so unlikely to be a factor that I find it crazy to think its being mentioned.

That being said if Ablade was fit I wouldn't be adverse to giving him a go as sole striker just to provide Graham a rest. Diack isn't ready to start and putting Diack in means we persevere with the same style of play. whereas Ablade means we need to change.

Ablade isn’t the answer as his previous record shows , think he was a “ punt “

Biggest criticism I’ve got is we should have went for a proven goal scorer even from a lower level .

Making changes from the bench there is no one there you think is going to be an impact sub .

Last year we had Adeloye who you thought could nick a goal , not so sure about this season 

 

[Dick Dastardly]

1 hour ago, 1876 said:

He has brought in attacking players but plays defensive football.   Let's go with 4 3 3 or 3 4 3 and  put the opposition on the back foot 

The criticism last year was that we scored goals, but couldn’t defend. Looks like he has sorted that, but at a cost. Gung-ho isn’t the answer. He needs to find a happy medium 

[Jordanhill Jag]

On 9/30/2024 at 4:43 PM, Lenziejag said:

I really don’t think it is. There were a couple of strikers that it was rumoured we were interested in, but they decided to go elsewhere as they didn’t think they would start ahead of last season’s leading goal scorer.

No We cant make Players Sign 

But what it shows that we have had a problem with Recruitment since McCall Left 

What it shows is that decision not to consider making McCall Director of Football & use his Contacts and Eye for a Player - because it was deemed that a Future Director of Football would also be in charge of the Woman's Team ( & McCall wouldn't be suitable for that Role ) - it shows this was the wrong decision 

What is shows is that we have put far too much resource and cash into the Non Football Staff - currently we have Dools , Paul McDonald ( & Kenny Arthur Part Time as we cut his hours ) 

Dools , Paul McDonald look after the Coaching - Strength & Conditioning - Recruitment - Scouting - Team Tactics etc etc - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Dedicated Recruitment / Scouting Manager - but we do have a " Football Committee " - what it does - who is on it - No one Knows 

The Club Board & Trusts have decided we will go down a " Community Club" Route - Woman's Team of equal Standing to Men's Team - tick boxes on the various Charities linked to the Club 

That's fair enough - but you cannot have that size of organisation with the income we have - what you do is drain money away from our core reason for existing which is to win promotion & play in the Premier 

We have set up a structure that is not going to get us promoted - and each time we fail - we can sack the Manager 

But the next Manager will face the same problems 

So we are either a Professional Football Club Fighting for Promotion -or we are a "Community Club" - we cant afford to be both - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Recruitment Manager in this day & age - tells you everything you need to know about how PTFC are being run     

 

  

 

  

Edited Tuesday at 04:54 PM by Jordanhill Jag

[fenski]

5 hours ago, laukat said:

Brian Graham will score goals if chances are made. Our problem is we make almost no chances currently.

From what I have seen this season there is only one game where we have created chances that I would have expected Graham to score and that was against an exceptionally poor Queens Park.

His involvement with the Women's team is so unlikely to be a factor that I find it crazy to think its being mentioned.

That being said if Ablade was fit I wouldn't be adverse to giving him a go as sole striker just to provide Graham a rest. Diack isn't ready to start and putting Diack in means we persevere with the same style of play. whereas Ablade means we need to change.

I've only seen Ablade once (against Ayr) and based on that performance I'm also curious to see how he'd do playing in the main striker role.

He looked capable of playing with his back to goal and he's got loads of pace. And maybe the defenders would be less inclined to play hopeful long balls in the air.

He may not have a great goal scoring record, but maybe his link up play and threat of pace would create chances for others? Sure Doolan will consider this option at some point.

[Lenziejag]

1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

No We cant make Players Sign 

But what it shows that we have had a problem with Recruitment since McCall Left 

What it shows is that decision not to consider making McCall Director of Football & use his Contacts and Eye for a Player - because it was deemed that a Future Director of Football would also be in charge of the Woman's Team ( & McCall wouldn't be suitable for that Role ) - it shows this was the wrong decision 

What is shows is that we have put far too much resource and cash into the Non Football Staff - currently we have Dools , Paul McDonald ( & Kenny Arthur Part Time as we cut his hours ) 

Dools , Paul McDonald look after the Coaching - Strength & Conditioning - Recruitment - Scouting - Team Tactics etc etc - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Dedicated Recruitment / Scouting Manager - but we do have a " Football Committee " - what it does - who is on it - No one Knows 

The Club Board & Trusts have decided we will go down a " Community Club" Route - Woman's Team of equal Standing to Men's Team - tick boxes on the various Charities linked to the Club 

That's fair enough - but you cannot have that size of organisation with the income we have - what you do is drain money away from our core reason for existing which is to win promotion & play in the Premier 

We have set up a structure that is not going to get us promoted - and each time we fail - we can sack the Manager 

But the next Manager will face the same problems 

So we are either a Professional Football Club Fighting for Promotion -or we are a "Community Club" - we cant afford to be both - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Recruitment Manager in this day & age - tells you everything you need to know about how PTFC are being run     

 

  

 

  

None of the stuff you have said there will have made any difference to a striker coming to Thistle if they didn’t expect to get a game.

[Jag]

6 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:

Apart from fitness, stamina etc there's three aspects to assessing Graham as a player*.  

1/Number of goals scored against sitters missed, positioning when scoring chances created.

2/Link up play, back to the goal stuff, assists etc.

3/Amount of quality service he receives.

*Apart from the occasional heid gone moments I doubt his captaincy is in question.

Generalising I know but I reckon No3 is in his favour. He's not receiving enough quality balls either from wide positions or thru midfield.

No 2 isn't ever Brian's strongest suit, which exasperates things if he ain't scoring.

Re No 1, because of poor service it's perhaps unfair to assess Graham's current goal conversion rate. Just not enough data.

It's all very much a management problem. Players get dropped all the time for tactical purposes even if they don't deserve to miss out. There's no reason whatsoever that makes Graham undroppable. That said it's far from clear to me whether dropping Brian is an answer.

 

 

I'm not sure either if Brian Graham being dropped is the answer or not. However, there's only one way to find out.

[Dick Dastardly]

12 minutes ago, Jag said:

 

I'm not sure either if Brian Graham being dropped is the answer or not. However, there's only one way to find out.

Actually there are at least 2 ways. Drop him and see if things improve, or keep playing him and see if he starts scoring for fun

[Norgethistle]

2 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

No We cant make Players Sign 

But what it shows that we have had a problem with Recruitment since McCall Left 

What it shows is that decision not to consider making McCall Director of Football & use his Contacts and Eye for a Player - because it was deemed that a Future Director of Football would also be in charge of the Woman's Team ( & McCall wouldn't be suitable for that Role ) - it shows this was the wrong decision 

What is shows is that we have put far too much resource and cash into the Non Football Staff - currently we have Dools , Paul McDonald ( & Kenny Arthur Part Time as we cut his hours ) 

Dools , Paul McDonald look after the Coaching - Strength & Conditioning - Recruitment - Scouting - Team Tactics etc etc - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Dedicated Recruitment / Scouting Manager - but we do have a " Football Committee " - what it does - who is on it - No one Knows 

The Club Board & Trusts have decided we will go down a " Community Club" Route - Woman's Team of equal Standing to Men's Team - tick boxes on the various Charities linked to the Club 

That's fair enough - but you cannot have that size of organisation with the income we have - what you do is drain money away from our core reason for existing which is to win promotion & play in the Premier 

We have set up a structure that is not going to get us promoted - and each time we fail - we can sack the Manager 

But the next Manager will face the same problems 

So we are either a Professional Football Club Fighting for Promotion -or we are a "Community Club" - we cant afford to be both - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Recruitment Manager in this day & age - tells you everything you need to know about how PTFC are being run     

 

  

 

  

Who had “Blame it on Women’s team” on their JJ bingo card?

Having a women’s team encourages our biggest untapped fan market to get involved in football and our club, females.

It is not on an equal standing as the men’s team.

- Men’s team are full time and paid handsomely for it.

- Women’s team train part time and are not paid a salary, they get basic expenses and all have “real jobs”

- Women’s team fund themselves, find their own sponsorship 

The women’s game is rightly on the up, not just in Scotland but across Europe, as a fan base we should be embracing this. Not only is it another branch of the club to support it’s a gateway for families to get involved in the club, as well as females of all ages. I know fans that started coming to Firhill because they’d previously went to the Women’s games, so it works. 
 

Because the club wants to involve females, charities and the broader community is the correct thing to do, and ultimately being part of the community grows the club.

[Jordanhill Jag]

52 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:

None of the stuff you have said there will have made any difference to a striker coming to Thistle if they didn’t expect to get a game.

Really - so McCall as Football Director could have not have found another  Steven Dobie who played in the English Premier or a Lawrance Shankland who played for Scotland - none of these type of Players would have taken there chances against a 36 year Old Striker - instead the Board ( supported by the Trusts)  choose the Womans Team over PTFC founded 1876 

Are you really saying that Money - Chances of Promotion - Coaching Set Up - General Club Culture do not influence Players Signing ? It was simply down to we had a Striker & Dools wont Change Him " 

So its all Dools Fault - we can then sack him - carry on as we are 

Just as McCall was getting blamed from people in the Club for "overspending his budget " and creating the large Debt - this time the Debt will be Dools fault  

As a Manager he carries the Can - that's how it goes 

But a "Football Committee" who hasn't said - wait a minute we need someone dedicated to recruitment - we need someone dedicated to Strength & Fitness ? So what exactly are they discussing - Let Me Guess 

Lambie the supposed "Old Skool" employed International Athletes as Strength & Condition Coaches 

Jock Wallace - Gullane - Low Impact - Injury Free Fitness & Strength Running Up Sand Dunes 

But we are failing because " Dools will only play one Striker " and we couldn't recruit another one 

Aye No Bother 

Place is a shambles - the Off Park is now impacting on the On Park  

   

 

[Jordanhill Jag]

1 minute ago, Norgethistle said:

Who had “Blame it on Women’s team” on their JJ bingo card?

Having a women’s team encourages our biggest untapped fan market to get involved in football and our club, females.

It is not on an equal standing as the men’s team.

- Men’s team are full time and paid handsomely for it.

- Women’s team train part time and are not paid a salary, they get basic expenses and all have “real jobs”

- Women’s team fund themselves, find their own sponsorship 

The women’s game is rightly on the up, not just in Scotland but across Europe, as a fan base we should be embracing this. Not only is it another branch of the club to support it’s a gateway for families to get involved in the club, as well as females of all ages. I know fans that started coming to Firhill because they’d previously went to the Women’s games, so it works. 
 

Because the club wants to involve females, charities and the broader community is the correct thing to do, and ultimately being part of the community grows the club.

Go read what I said Ref the decision not to recruit McCall as Director of Football 

As Ive said - you want a Community Team - thats fine - dont be surprised when you Run out of Money & dont get promoted - you cant have both   

[Jordanhill Jag]

4 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:

Who had “Blame it on Women’s team” on their JJ bingo card?

Having a women’s team encourages our biggest untapped fan market to get involved in football and our club, females.

It is not on an equal standing as the men’s team.

- Men’s team are full time and paid handsomely for it.

- Women’s team train part time and are not paid a salary, they get basic expenses and all have “real jobs”

- Women’s team fund themselves, find their own sponsorship 

The women’s game is rightly on the up, not just in Scotland but across Europe, as a fan base we should be embracing this. Not only is it another branch of the club to support it’s a gateway for families to get involved in the club, as well as females of all ages. I know fans that started coming to Firhill because they’d previously went to the Women’s games, so it works. 
 

Because the club wants to involve females, charities and the broader community is the correct thing to do, and ultimately being part of the community grows the club.

Winning Attracts Fans - its as simple as that  

[Norgethistle]

10 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Go read what I said Ref the decision not to recruit McCall as Director of Football 

As Ive said - you want a Community Team - thats fine - dont be surprised when you Run out of Money & dont get promoted - you cant have both   

What did McCall actually achieve at Firhill in his two tenures?

Relegated once, and if COVID hadn’t stopped the season a second time (and the slump) we were likely to get relegated again.

You go on about too many staff, he had 2 assistants, at a time we were a 1st division team, not a championship team.

[Woodstock Jag]

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

What it shows is that decision not to consider making McCall Director of Football & use his Contacts and Eye for a Player - because it was deemed that a Future Director of Football would also be in charge of the Woman's Team ( & McCall wouldn't be suitable for that Role ) - it shows this was the wrong decision 

If this claim were true, we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams.

No such Director of Football exists or has ever existed.

It’s almost as though the Club didn’t want a Director of Football for reasons completely unrelated to the women’s team.

The truth is much more prosaic than the false story Jim wants to tell everyone. The truth is that those in charge at the time didn’t think a Director of Football was a justified expense or the best management model for a Championship football club.

It is entirely legitimate to disagree with this assessment. But it’s the one they reached.

And plenty of Clubs in Scotland operate successfully both at our level and above without a Director of Football.

But what this reveals is that, yet again, Jim is simply upset because the current regime at Firhill doesn’t create jobs for his friends.

[Third Lanark]

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

No We cant make Players Sign 

But what it shows that we have had a problem with Recruitment since McCall Left 

What it shows is that decision not to consider making McCall Director of Football & use his Contacts and Eye for a Player - because it was deemed that a Future Director of Football would also be in charge of the Woman's Team ( & McCall wouldn't be suitable for that Role ) - it shows this was the wrong decision 

What is shows is that we have put far too much resource and cash into the Non Football Staff - currently we have Dools , Paul McDonald ( & Kenny Arthur Part Time as we cut his hours ) 

Dools , Paul McDonald look after the Coaching - Strength & Conditioning - Recruitment - Scouting - Team Tactics etc etc - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Dedicated Recruitment / Scouting Manager - but we do have a " Football Committee " - what it does - who is on it - No one Knows 

The Club Board & Trusts have decided we will go down a " Community Club" Route - Woman's Team of equal Standing to Men's Team - tick boxes on the various Charities linked to the Club 

That's fair enough - but you cannot have that size of organisation with the income we have - what you do is drain money away from our core reason for existing which is to win promotion & play in the Premier 

We have set up a structure that is not going to get us promoted - and each time we fail - we can sack the Manager 

But the next Manager will face the same problems 

So we are either a Professional Football Club Fighting for Promotion -or we are a "Community Club" - we cant afford to be both - No Strength & Conditioning Coach - No Recruitment Manager in this day & age - tells you everything you need to know about how PTFC are being run     

 

  

 

  

Jim I would like to see a Director of Football position.  At the very least their experience could have assisted Archie at times, now Doolan and also if Graham gets the gig eventually.

I feel one of Archie’s weak spots was not having proper contacts in the transfer market hence we took a punt on a lot of untested players, Doolan as well to an extent with McDonald, Williams etc and I fear Brian Graham would be the exact same.

is there a reason it would need to be McCall though?  Could someone like Ian Murray not be approached instead? Knows the transfer market, assembled decent squads- managed at Scottish lower leagues, championship and previously premier league and also would be an experienced mentor to the managers?  
rightly or wrongly I can’t help but think McCall would not be entirely welcomed back at Firhill or may not wish to return anyway 

[Tom Hosie]

There are a whole host of things in my life right now infinitely more important than Partick Thistle Football Club.

But, sod it, I clicked on here and feel sufficiently triggered to respond to one point. And to just one point only

Partick Thistle WFC has no baring whatsoever on the success, or otherwise, of the Men's team. 

Anyone who suggests otherwise is either just ignorant of the facts or is peddling an agenda. Or a bit of both. 

Hey, that's up to them. Whatever gets them through the night, as one wise man once wrote. 

But sometimes if you say something enough it can become 'fact' simply through repetition. 

So just in case it does then can I reiterate, if the men's team are good, bad or indifferent PTWFC will have had no baring on that whatsoever. None. 

Now, if you feel tempted to reply to this please don't bother. I'll unlikely read it. I will almost certainly not be remotely interested. 

Toodle pip. 

Edited Tuesday at 08:48 PM by Tom Hosie

[Dick Dastardly]

2 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Go read what I said Ref the decision not to recruit McCall as Director of Football 

As Ive said - you want a Community Team - thats fine - dont be surprised when you Run out of Money & dont get promoted - you cant have both   

So impressed with what McCall is doing at Clyde. He must be a shoe in for the Man Utd job when it comes up.

[Jordanhill Jag]

1 hour ago, Woodstock Jag said:

If this claim were true, we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams.

No such Director of Football exists or has ever existed.

It’s almost as though the Club didn’t want a Director of Football for reasons completely unrelated to the women’s team.

The truth is much more prosaic than the false story Jim wants to tell everyone. The truth is that those in charge at the time didn’t think a Director of Football was a justified expense or the best management model for a Championship football club.

It is entirely legitimate to disagree with this assessment. But it’s the one they reached.

And plenty of Clubs in Scotland operate successfully both at our level and above without a Director of Football.

But what this reveals is that, yet again, Jim is simply upset because the current regime at Firhill doesn’t create jobs for his friends.

There were discussions with a Board Director and McCall around this -as he was still being paid by the Club - it was then made quite clear that under No Circumstances would it happen for the Reasons I stated - the person who told me was a Director of the Club -and it was also confirmed a separate Director 

As you have correctly stated -as per the Club future Modus Operandi - any Football Director would be responsible for Recruitment for the Club -and the Woman's Team  they are of equal status - McCall would not be the correct person for that role - hence why it did not progress 

Im also guessing that the Football Committee has representatives of both the Club and the Woman's Team on it -as part of the  “ integration” process- as stated by the General Manager 

The Trusts dictate the direction of Travel for the Club 

But - if that direction of travel impacts on our ability to compete on the Park  - and our future financial stability -then its on them 

Its far too simplistic to blame the Team Manager for our failings 

Edited Tuesday at 09:26 PM by Jordanhill Jag

[Jordanhill Jag]

49 minutes ago, Tom Hosie said:

There are a whole host of things in my life right now infinitely more important than Partick Thistle Football Club.

But, sod it, I clicked on here and feel sufficiently triggered to respond to one point. And to just one point only

Partick Thistle WFC has no baring whatsoever on the success, or otherwise, of the Men's team. 

Anyone who suggests otherwise is either just ignorant of the facts or is peddling an agenda. Or a bit of both. 

Hey, that's up to them. Whatever gets them through the night, as one wise man just wrote. 

But sometimes if you say something enough it can become 'fact' simply through repetition. 

So just in case it does then can I reiterate, if the men's team are good, bad or indifferent PTWFC will have had no baring on that whatsoever. None. 

Now, if you feel tempted to reply to this please don't bother. I'll unlikely read it. I will almost certainly not be remotely interested. 

Toodle pip. 

Well it did -as it influenced a potential role for McCall as Director of Football - bringing with it his contacts and ability to spot a Player - something we could have being doing with 

 

[Jordanhill Jag]

53 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

Jim I would like to see a Director of Football position.  At the very least their experience could have assisted Archie at times, now Doolan and also if Graham gets the gig eventually.

I feel one of Archie’s weak spots was not having proper contacts in the transfer market hence we took a punt on a lot of untested players, Doolan as well to an extent with McDonald, Williams etc and I fear Brian Graham would be the exact same.

is there a reason it would need to be McCall though?  Could someone like Ian Murray not be approached instead? Knows the transfer market, assembled decent squads- managed at Scottish lower leagues, championship and previously premier league and also would be an experienced mentor to the managers?  
rightly or wrongly I can’t help but think McCall would not be entirely welcomed back at Firhill or may not wish to return anyway 

 No reason it would need to be McCall - key is contacts  and ability to spot a Player - McCall had both and at the time we were still paying his salary -so it sort of made sense 

Despite a lot of peoples dislike of him - on both occasions he came - we were a Carcrash - after Dick and Caldwell - he built decent squads which his replacements benefited from 

However future Football Directors would be responsible for Woman's Football -as well as PTFC - so not sure how that works to be honest as one is Professional Football and one is Amateur Football 

[Jordanhill Jag]

2 hours ago, Norgethistle said:

What did McCall actually achieve at Firhill in his two tenures?

Relegated once, and if COVID hadn’t stopped the season a second time (and the slump) we were likely to get relegated again.

You go on about too many staff, he had 2 assistants, at a time we were a 1st division team, not a championship team.

On both occasion he took over Carcrashes - recruited players that we benefited from even after he left ( and we are now running out of them ) 

A normal Management Team has a Manager an Asst Manager -and First Team Coach - we had the same - just two were called Assistant Managers -and I said we had too many Non Football Staff - we do not have enough Football People because of that 

TJF and the Board have gone to great lengths blaming the Jlo Board for all our problems - even two years after she was forced out - she is still being blamed 

So lets accept the premise that the Jlo Board were a Carcrash - how was any team manager meant to manage effectively under that 

You don't get it both ways - if the Jlo Board was a disaster as has been stated - what about those who were trying to Work under it ? 

The Hypocrisy of various Board  Directors and TJF is breathtaking - completely selective to suit your argument