1876Jag Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 My head is bursting with all the possibilities. I know the most straightforward one for us is either 6 points or 4 points in the next two games and we're safe. Excluding goal difference situations, has anyone worked out all the scenarios that could happen? As a pessimist I'd start with us losing both games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) One win from either game or two draws will make us safe. 100% guaranteed. If County win tomorrow, we draw on Wednesday, and Killie don't win vs St Mirren then we are safe. this is mainly due to Killie playing Hibs on Saturday. If we're ahead of Killie by more than one point and at least level with Hibs going into Saturday's game they both can't overtake us. A win on Wednesday guarantees this scenario. As painful as cheering on a team managed by Derek Adams is, a County win is the best result for us tomorrow- it would also mean they are safe when they come to Firhill on Saturday, which may or may not work in our favour if we still need points. Edited May 5, 2014 by Ancipital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 We only need to beat Dross on Saturday and we are safe! Simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think our best bet is County to beat Hibs and St Mirren to beat Kilmarnock. Then all we need is a single point from two games to guarantee it, with Hibs Killie both below us and playing each other. Or just beat Hearts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 If we lost both games 1-0, we could stay up if killie draw both their games. If we lose by more then we'd need killie to pick up a maximum of 1 point in 2 games. If we draw with hearts and lose to county, that would keep us up if killie fail to win both games or if hibs lose both games. If we lose to hearts, and draw with county that would be enough if killie fail to win both games, or if county lose to hibs. Drawing both or winning either game would guarantee safety regardless of what happens elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 If we lost both games 1-0, we could stay up if killie draw both their games. If we lose by more then we'd need killie to pick up a maximum of 1 point in 2 games. In that scenario we could also stay up if Hibs lose both their games more heavily than we do. But aye, let's just beat Hearts and make things easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 If we win on Wednesday we are safe. We could even be safe with a draw if results go the right way. If we can go into Saturday with an advantage over both Hibs and Killie we will be safe as they are playing each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Oh no, just realised that if Killie beat St Mirren and Hibs beat County with us losing then it's a straight shoot-out between us and County on Saturday. Merde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 we need it to be over I've spent way too much time looking at P+B and on here thinking about it and seeing what others think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 a clean sheet s what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think what we need is a bit of composer here guys Let's see what Tuesday's result brings After that we have 2 games to sort things out Onwards and upwards It's been an entertaining season so far A great bunch of guys doing their best for the club I know that there have been mistakes made but for sure nobody can deny the commitment from both the management and players I've supported the jags from the early sixties and this and last season has been some of the best of times So enjoy your football the ups and downs We have some really good players here at firhill and in some quiet moments just think back to some of the dross that has been served up over the last few decades 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 All we need is a win on Wednesday and we are safe! End of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I'm looking at the other results, and I've got a feeling that we probably want Ross County to beat Hibs tonight, despite the fact that County are behind us in the table. If they do win, and St Mirren win at Rugby Park on Wednesday, a draw at Tynecastle secures safety before the final day. If tonight's game is a draw, and St Mirren beat Killie, any non victory at Tynecastle on our part still leaves us needing a draw and leaves Ross County needing either to win or hope that Hibs pick up something against Killie for them to be sure of safety. If tonight's game is a Hibs win they are safe, County need to win at Firhill if they are to be confident of safety, irrespective of the Killie St Mirren score. Or put most simply, we want the set of results that mean either we secure safety with a draw at Tynecastle or which leave County with nothing to play for on the final day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lindau Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA Edited May 6, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrybriscoe Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Okay. We know a win tomorrow night would put all this to bed and leave the Jags safe. But Thistle being Thistle we tend do things the hard way. So who should we be keeping an eye on? Well, although I reckon we'll beat County on the final day to settle the issue, I think Killie could be a lifesaver for us. Say things went badly an we lost both of our remaining games 1-0, I'm not sure Killie have got a win in them now, and obviously two draws in their remaining games would keep us above them. But hey, let's make sure the boys know we're right behind them tomorrow night by being as vocal as possible for the 90 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I'm looking at the other results, and I've got a feeling that we probably want Ross County to beat Hibs tonight, despite the fact that County are behind us in the table. If they do win, and St Mirren win at Rugby Park on Wednesday, a draw at Tynecastle secures safety before the final day. If tonight's game is a draw, and St Mirren beat Killie, any non victory at Tynecastle on our part still leaves us needing a draw and leaves Ross County needing either to win or hope that Hibs pick up something against Killie for them to be sure of safety. If tonight's game is a Hibs win they are safe, County need to win at Firhill if they are to be confident of safety, irrespective of the Killie St Mirren score. Or put most simply, we want the set of results that mean either we secure safety with a draw at Tynecastle or which leave County with nothing to play for on the final day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) I'm hoping for County to win fourteen nil tonight. That would put us pretty safe if Killie lose to St Mirren. Seriously, tonight's not the big one, but a positive result either way is better than a draw. Edited May 6, 2014 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banderas Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) In that scenario we could also stay up if Hibs lose both their games more heavily than we do. But aye, let's just beat Hearts and make things easy. they (hibs) have to lose by +3 goals more than us. if Ross County win tonight they stay up regardless of Saturdays game. Edited May 6, 2014 by banderas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distel Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WAwuSK36Gw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Okay. We know a win tomorrow night would put all this to bed and leave the Jags safe. But Thistle being Thistle we tend do things the hard way. So who should we be keeping an eye on? Well, although I reckon we'll beat County on the final day to settle the issue, I think Killie could be a lifesaver for us. Say things went badly an we lost both of our remaining games 1-0, I'm not sure Killie have got a win in them now, and obviously two draws in their remaining games would keep us above them. But hey, let's make sure the boys know we're right behind them tomorrow night by being as vocal as possible for the 90 mins. If Hibs win tonight, both Kilies games are against teams that are safe, which can't be good news for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 If Hibs win tonight we just need a draw vs Ross county. It's not the worst scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banderas Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 If Hibs win tonight we just need a draw vs Ross county. It's not the worst scenario if RC win then they don't care Saturday and we can even stay up even losing both games as long as Hibs lose both theirs by 3 goals more than we do. so just win at Tynecastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemei Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 All Hibs so far, but they are really crap up front so they could do that all game and may sneak one at the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 If Hibs can beat RC in Dingwall where RC's record is good then we should be beating them at Firhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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