scotty Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 There are 5 games left. So with a possible 15 points to drop how are we safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Not putting blame on Scully since I have no idea how he performed, but was it a soft goal he let in? Something Tomas could have kept out given his form this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) So we can't be automatically relegated as Dundee United's maximum points total is 39. But if Kilmarnock win 5 out of 5, they finish on 47. If Hamilton win 4 out of 5, they finish on 48 If Inverness win 2 out of 6, they finish on 45 If Dundee win 1 out of 5, they finish on 44 I think we have to assume that all of these teams are capable of doing that. So we're very definitely nowhere near safe from the drop spot even if we beat Dundee United. We need a scalp and to beat one of Killie or Hamilton will matter more, if avoiding the play-off is the priority. Beating Killie would, barring goal-difference, be enough. Edited April 9, 2016 by Woodstock Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 We don't need 47 points. We're safe. If killie win their 5 games they have 47 points ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 So we can't be automatically relegated as Dundee United's maximum points total is 39. But if Kilmarnock win 5 out of 5, they finish on 47. If Hamilton win 4 out of 5, they finish on 48 If Inverness win 2 out of 6, they finish on 45 If Dundee win 1 out of 6, they finish on 44 I think we have to assume that all of these teams are capable of doing that. So we're very definitely nowhere near safe from the drop spot even if we beat Dundee United. We need a scalp and to beat one of Killie or Hamilton will matter more, if avoiding the play-off is the priority. Beating Killie would, barring goal-difference, be enough. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If killie win their 5 games they have 47 points ? If Killie win all five games or win four and don't lose to us, It's perfectly conceivable that the playoff points required will be more than one win away from our perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Carlos I Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 So with a possible 15 points to drop how are we safe? Because the teams below us won't all reach 41 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Carlos I Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 We're about as likely to finish 11th as Hearts are to win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Because the teams below us won't all reach 41 points. If ICT beat Hearts that's only 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaila Street Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) 16 home v. 17 away means 3 home games. Dundee also have 3 at home, so probably Kilmarnock or DU at home again. Edited April 9, 2016 by Vaila Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Disappointing today but there is still the opportunity to finish 7th which would continue our steady progress and to win more points than last season as well. We could also have the pleasure of relegating Dundee United depending on how the fixtures fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Any idea when the fixtures are out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Bottled it against Killie and bottled it again today. We're Thistle, we score when we want ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 We're Thistle, we score when we want ! Can we start scoring when we need to sometime? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) The result of poor choices by the managerial team. Scully is worth a goal to the opposition, and on this occasion he failed to get down quickly enough to a shot, although he had a clear view of it, and later on he flapped at a ball in the box instead of catching it. Most of the first half was wasted trying to compete with Ross County at hoofball. Eventually, when it dawned that that wasn't bringing any return, the punts came in time after time after time from the wings. One scramble in the opposition box and one shot (from the area in front of the goalmouth) were the closest we came to scoring, although the latter,like every high cross in, was saved by Scott Fox. We could have retained possession and kept punting in high balls until next season without scoring. One actual shot on target. The priority for next season is to learn about modern offensive play, because this old-fashioned emphasis on crosses is not working, and the low score record confirms that. Facs are chiels that winna ding. Edited April 9, 2016 by Fearchar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Thistle Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Talk about fekkin depressed!? Youd think after 45+ years supportin Thistle I'd be used to it. Ama fcuk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaila Street Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 That win on Tuesday looks massive in retrospect now. Without those 3 points the position would be significantly less commanding. Hopefully Cerny is back quickly - I'm afraid Scully is the new Piccolo where appearance on a team sheet leads to an immediate drop in confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 The result of poor choices by the managerial team. Scully is worth a goal to the opposition, and on this occasion he failed to get down quickly enough to a shot, although he had a clear view of it, and later on he flapped at a ball in the box instead of catching it. Most of the first half was wasted trying to compete with Ross County at hoofball. Eventually, when it dawned that that wasn't bringing any return, the punts came in time after time after time from the wings. One scramble in the opposition box and one shot (from the area in front of the goalmouth) were the closest we came to scoring, although the latter,like every high cross in, was saved by Scott Fox. We could have retained possession and kept punting in high balls until next season without scoring. One actual shot on target. The priority for next season is to learn about modern offensive play, because this old-fashioned emphasis on crosses is not working, and the low score record confirms that. Facs are chiels that winna ding. No offense, but are you a vampire? It's the only thing that can explain your aversion to a tactic that's been part of the game since it first started to be played.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) The significance of the defeat is starting to sink in. Terrible day. Edited April 9, 2016 by Dark Passenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 As the lowest scorers in the league, I guess we should have known that we wouldn't get the goal which could have made the remainder of this season so much more enjoyable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) No offense, but are you a vampire? It's the only thing that can explain your aversion to a tactic that's been part of the game since it first started to be played.... The result of poor choices by the managerial team. Scully is worth a goal to the opposition, and on this occasion he failed to get down quickly enough to a shot, although he had a clear view of it, and later on he flapped at a ball in the box instead of catching it. Most of the first half was wasted trying to compete with Ross County at hoofball. Eventually, when it dawned that that wasn't bringing any return, the punts came in time after time after time from the wings. One scramble in the opposition box and one shot (from the area in front of the goalmouth) were the closest we came to scoring, although the latter,like every high cross in, was saved by Scott Fox. We could have retained possession and kept punting in high balls until next season without scoring. One actual shot on target. The priority for next season is to learn about modern offensive play, because this old-fashioned emphasis on crosses is not working, and the low score record confirms that. Facs are chiels that winna ding. I think that Fearchar is spot on with his analysis. Granted the tactic is part of the game, but that doesn't mean it has to be part of our game. Especially since we don't actually get any joy with it. Last season Lyle Taylor offered us at least a chance at winning and creating something from the high balls, especially since guys like Higgy were always keen to get beyond the striker. This season though, Pogba hasn't offered near enough to be considered a goal scoring threat, and hasn't been helped by the fact that support has been tediously slow to arrive. Edited April 9, 2016 by Yellow & Redneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) The damage was done in the last Kilmarnock game. It was always a big ask to beat RC at Dingwall given the importance of the game for both teams. The season has been more successful than most dared hope for at its start, and the management team and players are to be congratulated. But the frustrating thing is that it could have been much better with the players available. I can understand Archie's caution in selection and tactics for the first 3/4 of the season, but lately, points have been dropped when a more agressive approach would have yielded benefits, and not playing Doolan from the start more often must be the biggest factor in the low number of goals scored and our failure to make the top six. Maybe this season will have given Archie more confidence, and next season we will see a more attacking approach - hopefully not all down the flanks with ineffectual crosses - especially with the speed and directness of Erskine, Dumbaya and Edwards. Edited April 9, 2016 by eljaggo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Everyone agrees we played some really good stuff 2nd half on Tuesday, which culminated in a win. So why oh why change things back to the tactics that have let us down so badly in games this season? Maybe our resident tactical genius will be along later to explain it. A must win game with big rewards and a complete lack of character, desire and positivity from the team. Feel really sorry for the Jags fans who travelled up to Dingwall today. We've all been let down and have 5 tedious games left against the dross of the top division. And people wonder why crowds are down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Gutted. One point, just one measly point and we would have been in the top six. Ach well, we'll just need to 'win' the bottom six now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Horrible result. I think Archie will have a real problem in lifting and motivating this team for the remaining games . Listening to the commentary and witnessing the last few games I agree with others about our crossing. "A free kick to Thistle" must be about the most pointless phrase in Scottish football. We cant build our team tactics around Pogba facing away from the opposition goal. Too many games we have had either one or no shots on target. Really don't want to see this season finishing with the likes of DU and Killie gubbing us because of lack of effort. Given all that I would have bitten your hand off for the position we are in now after nine games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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