Juan Carlos I Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 We're crying out for a player in the Erskine mould. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 No offense, but are you a vampire? It's the only thing that can explain your aversion to a tactic that's been part of the game since it first started to be played.... My hope is that, after totting up the number of crosses and corner kicks and the number of goals resulting from, the conclusion will be made that the problem is not the inadequate crosses but making do with crosses and corners instead of going more directly for goal. Interestingly, Muzzy realised it and started doing just that, even at the cost of leaving his defensive positiin exposed. It made sense and some fouls were drawn from County players when the ball was played towards the opposition goal. The way that we avoid taking the ball through the centre must also have a part to play in us not getting many penalties. We simply don't offer a goal-scoring threat, for all the huff and puff, because attacks follow an outdated tactic. When combined with not having a tall, physical centre-forward, it's the triumph of hope over experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Thistle Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Two steps forward Three fcukin steps back. Usual shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 When combined with not having a tall, physical centre-forward, it's the triumph of hope over experience. Thought that was why Pogba was in the team to play as the aforementioned tall centre forward but bottom line he's not good enough and unless there is a dramatic turnaround an absolute waste of a wage on a limited budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If killie win their 5 games they have 47 points ? I don't think that Kilmarnock team will win 3 of the next 5 games. Everyone should chill out. The "split" is a bit of a strange concept and will probably die out, I think we are overestimating the significance of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 highly significant in terms of crowd sizes. I would imagine that if we were hosting Sellick or Hearts instead of Hamilton or Dundee Utd, we would get some much needed cash in the coffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusTejero Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 The result of poor choices by the managerial team. Scully is worth a goal to the opposition, and on this occasion he failed to get down quickly enough to a shot, although he had a clear view of it, and later on he flapped at a ball in the box instead of catching it. Most of the first half was wasted trying to compete with Ross County at hoofball. Eventually, when it dawned that that wasn't bringing any return, the punts came in time after time after time from the wings. One scramble in the opposition box and one shot (from the area in front of the goalmouth) were the closest we came to scoring, although the latter,like every high cross in, was saved by Scott Fox. We could have retained possession and kept punting in high balls until next season without scoring. One actual shot on target. The priority for next season is to learn about modern offensive play, because this old-fashioned emphasis on crosses is not working, and the low score record confirms that. Facs are chiels that winna ding. You're absolutely obsessed with crosses. Really odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 You're absolutely obsessed with crosses. Really odd. It's not really that odd. Anyone who's watched us on a regular basis this season will know that the crossing from both set pieces and open play has been horrendous.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick in the basin Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Thought that was why Pogba was in the team to play as the aforementioned tall centre forward but bottom line he's not good enough and unless there is a dramatic turnaround an absolute waste of a wage on a limited budget. This 100% - must win game and top scorer on bench ....again! I'd be mightily peed off if I was Dools tonight. It's like watching Lukas Akins all over again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 It can be a good tactic depending on the centre forward and the delivery but unfortunately this season we've had neither , watched West Ham v Arsenal , all West Hams goals scored by Andy Carroll were scored from crosses , different level obviously but it can work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I think this season has been testament to just how much of a model professional and proper Jags man Kris Doolan is. Scored 9 goals this season despite been resigned to the bench for a lot of the season, and being kept out of the squad by a guy that offers absolutely sod all as a goalscoring threat. A lot of other players would have been asking to move on and get first team football elsewhere, so fair play to the guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 It can be a good tactic depending on the centre forward and the delivery but unfortunately this season we've had neither , watched West Ham v Arsenal , all West Hams goals scored by Andy Carroll were scored from crosses , different level obviously but it can work . http://www.wsj.com/articles/are-outdated-soccer-tactics-a-cross-to-bear-keeping-possession-is-the-way-to-goal-1402007011 I always found this a really interesting article/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Gutted. One point, just one measly point and we would have been in the top six. Ach well, we'll just need to 'win' the bottom six now. I thought that too - but apparently had it been a draw then we would have to have waited until Tuesday night to see if ICT beat Hearts - if they did then they would have gone above our theoretical 42 point total on goal difference! All academic now of course - disappointing today but as has been said elsewhere - 3 points from the first 9 games has proved to be too much of a handicap. as regards the remaining fixtures - are we due to play Hamilton and ICT at home and Dundee, Dundee U. and Killie away? or will they just footer about with the fixtures as usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 They just footer about Jeannie. Doesn't seem to be any logic behind them. But of course, it's a computer which randomly decides them........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Not enough goals throughout the team this season. We deserve to be bottom six. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Absolute murder today, Archie has to accept alot of the blame for that again today. Will need to see the goal again to see if Scully was at fault, from my view Cerny would've done better. Brutal decision to start Pogba, absolute terrible player, waste of a jersey, he didnt start vs dundee utd, Doolan scores then is relegated to the bench, what was Archie thinking? Welsh taking every corner and free kick so deep is torture aswell, I've been down for the last 3 games and it's staring out at me he is a fecking diddy at this level and cant take a set piece, why can't Archie see this.great result midweek but we've blown that big style today, we had loads of possession but 1 shot on target in 94 mins against a woeful County who had one shot on target and scored it.I'd have hooked Pogba after 10 mins as he just didn't look up for it, I'd chase that puddin before he signs an extension, he's got to be one of the worst strikers we've had, offers absolutely nothing and I was embarassed watching him and hearing County fans laugh at him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Not enough goals throughout the team this season. We deserve to be bottom six. Yip, that's about right. My general recollection of our games this season is very few glaring misses, simply a lack of chances created combined with a lack of goals from midfield. eta Bannigan 1 goal, Fraser 1 goal, Stevenson 1 goal, Edwards 1 goal, Welsh & Osman both zilch. Roughly a combined 100 starts and a total of 4 goals (one a fluke) from these players. No individual blame there just an observation. Wide players like Miller, Lawless, Booth, Dumbuya and Amoo have all contributed to the tune of 12 goals. Edited April 9, 2016 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Jag Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Big disappointment today but thought the team gave their all and the support who made the trip were superb. After the start to the season we had, Archie, Shaggy and the whole team should be given credit for turning things round and giving us a shot at top six. Hoping we can consolidate on what has been built since Archie took over, make certain of top league status for a fourth season as soon as possible and build for next season. Edited April 10, 2016 by Motherwell Jag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Ender Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have no idea what the problem is but I know when it comes to the crunch games in cups and league we bottle it. Never looked like scoring today and always looked as if a disaster was just around the corner. Sports psychologist needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have no idea what the problem is but I know when it comes to the crunch games in cups and league we bottle it. Never looked like scoring today and always looked as if a disaster was just around the corner. Sports psychologist needed. How many times over the years? Major disappointment again. One win and we could be chasing a place in Europe with no pressure on, instead of that we need to watch results of the teams below us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I thought that too - but apparently had it been a draw then we would have to have waited until Tuesday night to see if ICT beat Hearts - if they did then they would have gone above our theoretical 42 point total on goal difference! All academic now of course - disappointing today but as has been said elsewhere - 3 points from the first 9 games has proved to be too much of a handicap. as regards the remaining fixtures - are we due to play Hamilton and ICT at home and Dundee, Dundee U. and Killie away? or will they just footer about with the fixtures as usual? In my opinion the reason for this was that we couldn't afford to bring in what we needed to get a good start, due to how low we finished the season before. Each place dropped last season cost us about £100,00. So having 5 games with nothing to lose and the opportunity to play our passing game in front of bigger crowds could have increased interest and maybe upped the attendances at the start of next season. Scrambling about for points to keep above the play-off position is not going to make for good football. How many players wages are going to be used to fix the pitch? So what will our situation be after the summer? Not scoring yesterday has much deeper implications and depressed me much more than any other result this season (so far). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I think some people are forgetting that this was also make or break for County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I think some people are forgetting that this was also make or break for County. Aye and it was them that got the bl**dy goal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Carlos I Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Archie did an unbelievable job over the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the season to keep us safe after a difficult start, and we missed top 6 by a bawhair. We should be celebrating staying up and looking ahead, not moaning about our shortcomings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusTejero Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I have no idea what the problem is but I know when it comes to the crunch games in cups and league we bottle it. Never looked like scoring today and always looked as if a disaster was just around the corner. Sports psychologist needed. No we don't. This is the kind of thing that every fan thinks of their club, but for us it isn't true. There's been many times over Archie's tenure that we have had must win games that we have won. Yesterday wasn't one of them but there we are. I'm already over it, and it's been a great season regardless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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