Dick Dastardly Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, partickthedog said: If all or at least the vast majority of the ties are "higher teams" at home to "lower teams", in terms of league position, financial resources etc, then the possibility of surprises is minimised. Is that not the entire point of seeding. If you have seeding then the seeded teams should have an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: Is that not the entire point of seeding. If you have seeding then the seeded teams should have an advantage. Not necessarily, and certainly not here when 4 of the seeds have done nothing yet in the competition to earn their seeding. I would see the main purpose in seeding as being to keep stronger teams apart until the later stages of the tournament, rather than to give them an easier time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, elevenone said: Looking like we will not be seeded now. Kilmarnock/Livi home for me. Killie away would probably be better. I can't remember the last time we actually beat the DKBs at Firhill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Less than 700 at livi today. Listening to Radio Scotland today most of the pundits think Thistle will be in the play offs. With both Dundee teams going for the league but they think Dundee Utd will win the league, because they have the best strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, jagfox said: Killie away would probably be better. I can't remember the last time we actually beat the DKBs at Firhill! “The wheel has no memory” * *from my idiots guide to roulette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 With Dundee United, St. Johnstone and Dundee all out, we might get a bye to the next round. Either that or Aberdeen away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Seeded clubs Celtic Rangers Kilmarnock Aberdeen Motherwell Ross County Livingston Hibernian Unseeded clubs Partick Thistle Dunfermline Athletic Heart of Midlothian Forfar Athletic Hamilton Academical Greenock Morton Plus two of: Inverness Caledonian Thistle Dundee East Fife The cynic might suggest the "Old Firm (sic)" might get home ties against Forfar/Morton/Dunfermline. I suspect a trip to Dingwall might be our reward - but nice to be in the draw anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.H Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, CotterJag said: With Dundee United, St. Johnstone and Dundee all out, we might get a bye to the next round. Either that or Aberdeen away. Dundee are not out (yet) If they beat ICT tomorrow, they qualify as group winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.H Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 As usual BBC Sport get it wrong. Showing East Fife & Morton both finishing with 7 points, when in fact both have 8 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.H Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Now been corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 This afternoon's game is ripe for a W. Germany -Austria carve up. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, JeanieD said: This afternoon's game is ripe for a W. Germany -Austria carve up. Just saying There is no justification for seeding. It reduces this competition to farce, a carve up to ensure the bigger teams progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QXBoy Posted July 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said: There is no justification for seeding. It reduces this competition to farce, a carve up to ensure the bigger teams progress I totally agree! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Weebaw1 said: There is no justification for seeding. It reduces this competition to farce, a carve up to ensure the bigger teams progress For the powers that be, I think that is the justification. The last thing they want is Forfar v Morton in the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 12 hours ago, BILL.H said: Dundee are not out (yet) If they beat ICT tomorrow, they qualify as group winners. Thanks, I must have misread the tables. Tough next round draw whoever we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, CotterJag said: Tough next round draw whoever we get. Could be a chance to test ourselves against a lower Premier league team. Say Livi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: There is no justification for seeding. It reduces this competition to farce, a carve up to ensure the bigger teams progress I think the seeding in the mini leagues is sensible (as is the regionalisation) but I'm sure that's not your gripe. I too don't like the seeding in the knockout stage. I can see the logic to a point that in theory it gives some clubs who've qualified after 3 games something to play for in the last round of fixtures. In practice tho' I don't think it works out that way. On one hand qualifying as a seeded club increases your chances of progressing but on the other hand not qualifying increases the likelihood of a decent pay day. For instance I'm sure the powers that be at Forfar will happier they're not seeded. In assumption that the mini leagues need an incentive to generate competitive interest, I'm sure there's other ways of doing so rather than seeding in the knockout stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linlithgow Jag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 This has Celtic at home written all over it. Just putting it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charing X Jag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Dunno why but I have a funny feeling we will be going over the Clyde to castle greyskull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Charing X Jag said: Dunno why but I have a funny feeling we will be going over the Clyde to castle greyskull. Either way I won’t be going wouldn’t be giving either my money. Have been lambs to the slaughter too many times in the past to venture into any of the dens of despair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Anyone at home would be nice. Having the away fans in the JHS creates a better atmosphere but I doubt this set up would be allowed if we have "bigger" opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I think the seeding in the mini leagues is sensible (as is the regionalisation) but I'm sure that's not your gripe. I too don't like the seeding in the knockout stage. I can see the logic to a point that in theory it gives some clubs who've qualified after 3 games something to play for in the last round of fixtures. In practice tho' I don't think it works out that way. On one hand qualifying as a seeded club increases your chances of progressing but on the other hand not qualifying increases the likelihood of a decent pay day. For instance I'm sure the powers that be at Forfar will happier they're not seeded. In assumption that the mini leagues need an incentive to generate competitive interest, I'm sure there's other ways of doing so rather than seeding in the knockout stage. I have always enjoyed the mini leagues. I understand logic of regionalisation but would personally would have welcomed a visit to Elgin or Cove rather than new Duggy. Perhaps our board are looking for 1 of the old scum but please no! I’ve had enough of ‘big paydays’. We surely have enough money now after the sale of Fitzy(tragic that we hardly saw him play). I just want to progress as far as possible and I’m sure most all clubs’ fans feel the same. Livi at home would be good, a test of how far we’ve progressed(or otherwise) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dan Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Dross County at home. Glamour tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 County at Firhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 atleast its at home will give us any chance also good to see clyde finish bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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