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Just watching Fake Thistle Vs Arbroath and looking at ex Jags players Devine,. Welsh, Craigan,, and even Riddgers..all playing well and not thought good enough to play for us..

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4 minutes ago, Jimmy McD said:

Just watching Fake Thistle Vs Arbroath and looking at ex Jags players Devine,. Welsh, Craigan,, and even Riddgers..all playing well and not thought good enough to play for us. I forgot  that Ricky Little is a X Jag..

 

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McD said:

Just watching Fake Thistle Vs Arbroath and looking at ex Jags players Devine,. Welsh, Craigan,, and even Riddgers..all playing well and not thought good enough to play for us..

I quite liked all of those players but I suppose the one difference was that we were in the Premiership when we released them. Still think Welsh is a class act 

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3 hours ago, Jimmy McD said:

Just watching Fake Thistle Vs Arbroath and looking at ex Jags players Devine,. Welsh, Craigan,, and even Riddgers..all playing well and not thought good enough to play for us..

We, Jags Fans  didn't rate Devine and there were numerous negative comments about him every week. Similarly with Craigen though perhaps not as severe. For my part I thought Devine was a solid defender and although he made the odd mistake I thought he didn't deserve the criticism he attracted.

Archibald said he wanted to keep Ridgers but we didn't have enough money in the budget to do so.

Welsh and Craigen left for similar reasons - both wanted assurances of more game time: theassurances weren't forthcoming so they left!

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11 hours ago, Jimmy McD said:

Just watching Fake Thistle Vs Arbroath and looking at ex Jags players Devine,. Welsh, Craigan,, and even Riddgers..all playing well and not thought good enough to play for us..

Devine wasn’t good with us, Welsh was injured a lot, Craigan had just joined from uni the season we got promoted and wasn’t premiership quality - Riddgers, I don’t remember.

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11 hours ago, Jimmy McD said:
56 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:

Devine wasn’t good with us, Welsh was injured a lot, Craigan had just joined from uni the season we got promoted and wasn’t premiership quality - Riddgers, I don’t remember.

 

My memory might be failing me but wasn't the problem with Welsh that he had some medical/health condition that made him a slow healer. This condition meant that even  with normal injuries the recovery time he needed was much longer than that needed by other players.

When he joined ICT he was in and out of the side but in the last few season he has been one of their best players  been made captain and is a regular in the team. I assume the health issue has been resolved or being managed more effectively.

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Welsh was always excellent for us when fit. Craigen wasn't quite premier quality (I don't think he's played at that level since). Devine was excellent in his first season, played next to Lindsay in the top 6 season; like so many others he was so much poorer the next season. Ridgers wasn't as good as Cerny and was only ever going to be a back up.

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1 hour ago, Duke Gekantawa said:

Welsh was always excellent for us when fit. Craigen wasn't quite premier quality (I don't think he's played at that level since). Devine was excellent in his first season, played next to Lindsay in the top 6 season; like so many others he was so much poorer the next season. Ridgers wasn't as good as Cerny and was only ever going to be a back up.

That's basically my recollections. Devine's disciplinary record with us poor. Probably not a coincidence it's a lot better since he dropped down a division. James Craigen was a credit to himself when we were in the top tier. He did lack premiership quality but he always gave 100% and with his fitness levels he just about compensated for any ability shortcomings. 

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I was thinking about this and a team of ex-Jags that could still do a job for us. This would not be a bad line up and all still playing

------------ Nisbet - Rudden

Lawless  - Welsh - Craigen - Fitzpatrick

Penrice  - Lindsey -  Hendry -  O'Donnell

---------------- Ridgers

 

 

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I never really understood the admiration that many fans had for Welsh. But he definitely seems to have come onto a much better game than he ever did when he was with us.

I always liked Craigen for his effort and fitness; almost the exact same as my liking for Christie Elliot. They were both passable even in the Premiership, because not everybody can be a stand-out at that level.

Would I want either one back for next season?..... Yes! 

Welsh? Yes!

Lawless? No.

Ridgers? Yes

Paton? No way!

ATS? Yes!

Higginbotham, Cardle, Samsom? No way.

Sena? Yes!

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8 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said:

Welsh was always excellent for us when fit. Craigen wasn't quite premier quality (I don't think he's played at that level since). Devine was excellent in his first season, played next to Lindsay in the top 6 season; like so many others he was so much poorer the next season. Ridgers wasn't as good as Cerny and was only ever going to be a back up.

I can remember singing "Christmas Time, Lindsay and Devine" to the tune of "Mistletoe & Wine" in that brilliant 3-1 victory away at Ross County which triggered our run to the top 6. He must have been good to break into the 12 days of Archibald Christmas song monopoly.

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1 hour ago, Jaggernaut said:

I never really understood the admiration that many fans had for Welsh. But he definitely seems to have come onto a much better game than he ever did when he was with us.

I always liked Craigen for his effort and fitness; almost the exact same as my liking for Christie Elliot. They were both passable even in the Premiership, because not everybody can be a stand-out at that level.

Would I want either one back for next season?..... Yes! 

Welsh? Yes!

Lawless? No.

Ridgers? Yes

Paton? No way!

ATS? Yes!

Higginbotham, Cardle, Samsom? No way.

Sena? Yes!

ATS is completely done now.  Falkirk released him - according to their fans opposition players in league one were able to run rings round him.  Sadly injury’s have caught up with him and he is nowhere near the player now that we have fond memories of

Would not want Elliot back either.  He had a great attitude and always gave his all but in many areas he was very limited.  In the 8 years he was with us for instance his crossing was diabolical barely went to a Thistle player.  You would expect that to have improved significantly over the period but it didn’t 

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Talking of ex players and he was for a short period of time Jack McMillan who was young when he came on loan to us and I felt had a lot of potential has refused to sign a new deal with Livi because he doesn’t feel he will be guaranteed enough first team football in the premier league 

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30 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

ATS is completely done now.  Falkirk released him - according to their fans opposition players in league one were able to run rings round him.  Sadly injury’s have caught up with him and he is nowhere near the player now that we have fond memories of

Would not want Elliot back either.  He had a great attitude and always gave his all but in many areas he was very limited.  In the 8 years he was with us for instance his crossing was diabolical barely went to a Thistle player.  You would expect that to have improved significantly over the period but it didn’t 

I beg to differ. You could have a cross of the decade competition with Christie providing 3 outstanding candidates:

1) Cross to Lyle Taylor at Firhill to spark fightback in last game of season v Ross County on our return to the Premier League

2) Cross to Ade Azeez for the equaliser away against Celtic in the top 6 season

3) Cross to Kris Doolan at Firhill to take the lead v Rangers a few weeks later

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56 minutes ago, partickthedog said:

I beg to differ. You could have a cross of the decade competition with Christie providing 3 outstanding candidates:

1) Cross to Lyle Taylor at Firhill to spark fightback in last game of season v Ross County on our return to the Premier League

2) Cross to Ade Azeez for the equaliser away against Celtic in the top 6 season

3) Cross to Kris Doolan at Firhill to take the lead v Rangers a few weeks later

Most of the time it didn’t.  There was the odd time it did as in the scenarios you refer too.  Still would prefer we moved on from him anyway 

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3 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

I never really understood the admiration that many fans had for Welsh. But he definitely seems to have come onto a much better game than he ever did when he was with us.

You're opinion of course, Jaggernaut, but I disagree entirely with that. I think Welsh was absolutely integral to our promotion. He then performed well at the higher level (when fit). He was regularily a standout for us in the 15/16 season.

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I always thought Thistle should have kept Sean Welsh. Great attitude, leadership, skills. He did lose time (twice?) for a bad knee injury but we could have built the team around him and he could still be a Jag today. No such thoughts on Ridgers, Devine or Craigen. 

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On 5/11/2022 at 6:36 PM, Third Lanark said:

Talking of ex players and he was for a short period of time Jack McMillan who was young when he came on loan to us and I felt had a lot of potential has refused to sign a new deal with Livi because he doesn’t feel he will be guaranteed enough first team football in the premier league 

I really rated him and hoped we could keep him after his loan spell.  

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2 hours ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:

I really rated him and hoped we could keep him after his loan spell.  

I think he still had 2 years left on a contract at Livi I think at that point

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33 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

I think he still had 2 years left on a contract at Livi I think at that point

Hi ‘Third Lanark’!
I was wondering, did you used to be a Thirds supporter back in the day,  before following Thistle or perhaps was there a ‘HI-Hi’fan in your family? My uncle was a big Thirds fan and earlier this year I bought a book called, ‘The Ghosts Of Cathkin Park’: The Inside Story of TL’s Demise’. Very interesting, but ultimately a sad story about a once great Glasgow and Scottish football club, and it’s betrayal by its owner. I saw them play a number of times notably coming back from 4-1 down to draw 4-4 at Parkhead v a pre-Jock Stein Celtic!

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20 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said:

Hi ‘Third Lanark’!
I was wondering, did you used to be a Thirds supporter back in the day,  before following Thistle or perhaps was there a ‘HI-Hi’fan in your family? My uncle was a big Thirds fan and earlier this year I bought a book called, ‘The Ghosts Of Cathkin Park’: The Inside Story of TL’s Demise’. Very interesting, but ultimately a sad story about a once great Glasgow and Scottish football club, and it’s betrayal by its owner. I saw them play a number of times notably coming back from 4-1 down to draw 4-4 at Parkhead v a pre-Jock Stein Celtic!

I've long wondered if any Jags fans are still around who saw us playing against Third Lanark. I wonder if the two clubs were rivals, in the way, say that Clyde and Thistle used to be. Would there be  big visiting supports at Firhill and Cathkin when it was us vs. them? Any stories?

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1 hour ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said:

Hi ‘Third Lanark’!
I was wondering, did you used to be a Thirds supporter back in the day,  before following Thistle or perhaps was there a ‘HI-Hi’fan in your family? My uncle was a big Thirds fan and earlier this year I bought a book called, ‘The Ghosts Of Cathkin Park’: The Inside Story of TL’s Demise’. Very interesting, but ultimately a sad story about a once great Glasgow and Scottish football club, and it’s betrayal by its owner. I saw them play a number of times notably coming back from 4-1 down to draw 4-4 at Parkhead v a pre-Jock Stein Celtic!

 

1 hour ago, Jaggernaut said:

I've long wondered if any Jags fans are still around who saw us playing against Third Lanark. I wonder if the two clubs were rivals, in the way, say that Clyde and Thistle used to be. Would there be  big visiting supports at Firhill and Cathkin when it was us vs. them? Any stories?

Hi gents I wasn’t born till well after their demise.  Funnily enough by sheer coincidence I stay 5 minutes walk from Cathkin.

my interest came as my great grandad Johnny Campbell who was a Scottish internationalist (also played for Celtic and Aston Villa6 was a Third Lanark playing legend- played in the 1903-04 team that won the top league and the 1905 team that won the Scottish cup.

2 of his sons technically my great uncles also played for them in the 1920s.

My sad as well as watching Partick Thistle would also regularly attend Third Lanark games in the 1960s.  I was involved in resurrecting them at amateur level in the 2000s

Regarding  Partick Thistle- Third Lanark rivalry- there was none it was friendly.  Last ever Third Lanark captain Alan Mackay told me that for socialising it was always the jags players the Thirds players socialised with.

Third Lanark fans told me they always like Firhill and had a respect for the Jags.  It was Queens Park and in particular Clyde who they described as rivals and who they really loved beating 

 

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