lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Did say on STV that there's NO charge re him betting on Jags matches. Imo I'd rather hear of 513 charges of betting on third party fixtures than one single charge involving the Jags. Agree that betting on matches post the Black case is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 crazy stuff, especially after Black & Simonsen. I wonder if he used his own account, or used somebody elses and was grassed up? Heading for a massive ban I would think anyway, 10 games??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Guess we've seen the last of him for this season at least! First hearing next Thursday, so I would think he'll play if selected against Killie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Gums Murphy Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 crazy stuff, especially after Black & Simonsen. I wonder if he used his own account, or used somebody elses and was grassed up? Heading for a massive ban I would think anyway, 10 games??? Interested to see what suspension he'll get offered. Black was 10 games but seven suspended for betting on 160 games but more tellingly that included betting against his own team on occasions. Something which STV have suggested he hadn't. Simonsen 2 matches with one suspended for 55 games. SFA appealed decision as felt was lenient. My guess would be maybe 3-5 games purely for amount of games especially this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Gums Murphy Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 First hearing next Thursday, so I would think he'll play if selected against Killie Only reason I said that was I'm sure I read that the club would play him until the notice was served by compliance officer. No reason for him not to play I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Unbeliever Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Black was suspended 3 games for offences including betting against his own team (multiple times). If Lawless's ban is even equal to that it's a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 My guess would be maybe 3-5 games purely for amount of games especially this season. Are we running a book on this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hadn't realised that Black was betting against his own team. Surely that's infinitely worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hadn't realised that Black was betting against his own team. Surely that's infinitely worse. Iirc he bet against sevco in one of the matches he played in. And he scored! Strange guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hadn't realised that Black was betting against his own team. Surely that's infinitely worse. Not at all. He qualifies for an OBE for betting against Sevco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 He deserves the backing of the fans. This is not crime of the century. He has been a great servant to the club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't really give a shit. He's not the only one at Firhill doing it and I'd hazard a guess that more players continue to bet than don't. Bit annoying that he'll miss matches but he's broken the rule so there's no argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 If football fans turned against players every time they did something daft we'd have few heroes left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm not going to boo the boy out of Firhill, far from it. But he's a t!t. He's broken the rules, rules he knew were in place, and he could now be suspended for the beginning of our 15/16 campaign. I want our best players available, I don't want them missing and weakening our team because of their selfish attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't really give a shit. He's not the only one at Firhill doing it and I'd hazard a guess that more players continue to bet than don't. Bit annoying that he'll miss matches but he's broken the rule so there's no argument. Yip. Stevie's broken the golden rule..... Don't get caught. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 As a matter of interest, how was the (quite precise) figure of 513 games arrived at? Do the SPFL (previously known as 'The Beaks') have the power to request and get that sort of information from ISPs, Willie Hills or whoever? Or did they just find a 513 team Ladbrokes (proud sponsor of the SPFL) accumulator in his wallet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 As a matter of interest, how was the (quite precise) figure of 513 games arrived at? Do the SPFL (previously known as 'The Beaks') have the power to request and get that sort of information from ISPs, Willie Hills or whoever? Or did they just find a 513 team Ladbrokes (proud sponsor of the SPFL) accumulator in his wallet? Aye what ever happened to sticking a nom de plume on your slip? Tho' Oor Stevie would probably have just used Stephane de Lawless as his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Didn't Michael Moffat at Dunfermline get something like a 7 game ban for something similar? Can't remember if he was betting against his own team, but obviously the "not a rangers player" clause came into play and upped the ban somewhat from black and simonsen. Wee Stevie could be looking at a fair time off. Shame, but he fully deserves it. I'll still back him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 The big difference between black and moffat is that both broke a number of rules, ie..betting in the first place and then betting on games that your team plays in and then black bet against his team to win. So Stevie has broken 1 rule, whilst the others have broken 2 at least. So it shouldn't really matter how many games you have bet on, ie simonsen broke the same rule as stevie, only he bet 55 games. If you bet 1 or 100 it's only 1 rule he has broken. Think a 3-4 game ban with 50% suspended. Not the brightest as has been said, most players do it, but don't get caught or get a mate to put it on for you. He got caught so face it like a man and get on with it. Great player for the club and will get my backing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Should have used his BBC name Steven LAWLEFF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 He's not the brightest on a number of levels as those who follow him in Twitter will know ...as someone glad said a twat for doing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 STV reporting a 2 match ban with a further 4 suspended for the 500 or so games bet on. I think we'd take that one on the chin without too much of a grumble. Still a silly thing for the lad to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partick monkey Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Seems a reasonable result here... Can't complain. I don't know if this has been mentioned previously but judging but the large amounts of games he bet on, I hope the wee man doesn't have some kind of problem with the gambling. I've heard a lot about the lifestyle of these young footballers, training 4/5 hours a day, 4 days a week, they have a huge amount of spare time to fill so gambling is a great way to relieve the boredom and it is extremely addictive. Looking at the average wages there of the Thistle squad it's not as if he's got a mountain of cash to batter into (unless he's been extremely successful at it). I think the club has a care of duty to the players to make sure there is not more to this than meets the eye and offer support should it be needed... Edited May 21, 2015 by partick monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Seems a reasonable result here... Can't complain. I don't know if this has been mentioned previously but judging but the large amounts of games he bet on, I hope the wee man doesn't have some kind of problem with the gambling. I've heard a lot about the lifestyle of these young footballers, training 4/5 hours a day, 4 days a week, they have a huge amount of spare time to fill so gambling is a great way to relieve the boredom and it is extremely addictive. Looking at the average wages there of the Thistle squad it's not as if he's got a mountain of cash to batter into (unless he's been extremely successful at it). I think the club has a cure of duty to the players to make sure there is not more to this than meets the eye and offer support should it be needed... If you work it out, over the 3 yrs he has been cited on he bet 513 teams. This is the equivalent to placing between a 3-4 team bet every week. So if that is a gambling problem then I think 100% of our support who bet,must have a problem. He shouldn't have been so stupid and got caught, as has been said above, why didn't he get his mates to put a coupon on for him. Decent result today, but didn't think he would get hammered, going by what the other players done( betting matches involving their own team). 1 game next week and 1 at the start of the season is a good result for the club. Hope now we get him signed up ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottymagoo Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 513 is easy to get to. If you’re putting on a 6 team accumulator at the weekend and a 5 team CL/cup one during the week that’s 300 games a season near enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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