Lindau Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Archie sacked..................that's the only way he will be leaving! http://stv.tv/sport/football/1370494-archibald-the-only-way-i-ll-leave-thistle-is-if-they-sack-me/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Tom, so you are saying if he goes now his CV will still be intact? Id very much doubt he would be thinking like that. If all we can 'expect' is 10th every season because we are a small club is it any wonder we get low crowds? People will come to see a successful team with ambitions of winning something, like we had better crowds when we won the league. Why should we go to ibrox and places like that if we know we wont win? Does nobody have anything else better to do on a saturday than to spend a small fortune to watch us get beat? As for this is the way its been for 33 years, as someone has already said, that is loser talk. We have a platform to build now with the youth setup and off the field issues seemingly improving. There is no reason why we cant do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Blows Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 At least this thread has had the benefit of identifying the bellends on here, allowing us to tidy up our Ignore List. Haha. And there it is. The thing I love the most about this forum. The rose tinted spectacle brigade who block people if they dare say something negative or opposite to the majority. Sad sad existence it must be living in a big happy clappy zombie world where everyone agrees with what you say. Still happy to say I've never blocked anyone on here and never will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistar Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBK1k9CM26s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Disgusting lack of ambition by the manager... Only kidding Glad to have AA on board for the long term. Time to move up that table. #archiesarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Archie mixtape track 2... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zqT8Sw11Ks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Haha. And there it is. The thing I love the most about this forum. The rose tinted spectacle brigade who block people if they dare say something negative or opposite to the majority. Sad sad existence it must be living in a big happy clappy zombie world where everyone agrees with what you say. Still happy to say I've never blocked anyone on here and never will. Bit rich Legend especially when you go into hibernation when the team is playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Haha. And there it is. The thing I love the most about this forum. The rose tinted spectacle brigade who block people if they dare say something negative or opposite to the majority. Sad sad existence it must be living in a big happy clappy zombie world where everyone agrees with what you say. Still happy to say I've never blocked anyone on here and never will. *sounds of tumbleweed* I'm pleased Archie & Shaggy are staying to lead the Jags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Managers come and managers go - some are sacked - rightly or wrongly - some leave because they are wanted by other clubs and go on to bigger and better things. others leave for money, still more leave because they think they are better than they really are and are usually found out - the permutations are endless. In my time of following the club there have been good managers, adequate managers, lucky managers, unlucky managers, bad managers, terrible managers, awful managers ..........and, of course, one magnificent manager. Personally I have always taken the view that you shouldn't become too attached to any one single manager - although I will admit that the close season in 1974 was, for me, an unhappy moment in the club's history. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Delighted that Archie is staying. Credit due to the Board for getting our manager signed up for three years just a few months ago. Because of this, the compensation may well have put Shrewsbury off. Let's back Archie, pop over to PAWS. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Managers come and managers go - some are sacked - rightly or wrongly - some leave because they are wanted by other clubs and go on to bigger and better things. others leave for money, still more leave because they think they are better than they really are and are usually found out - the permutations are endless. In my time of following the club there have been good managers, adequate managers, lucky managers, unlucky managers, bad managers, terrible managers, awful managers ..........and, of course, one magnificent manager. Personally I have always taken the view that you shouldn't become too attached to any one single manager - although I will admit that the close season in 1974 was, for me, an unhappy moment in the club's history. Remember it well JD. When a legend like Davie McParland left over Strachangate, think most of us were worried. Still wee Bertie came in and steadied the ship Edited October 20, 2016 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Mmmm. Whoopie Doo. Relegation and a go at winning the Championship on his own rather than winning it with someone else's team. Are you actually a Thistle fan ? I don't remember you making many if any supportive comments about Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Are you actually a Thistle fan ? I don't remember you making many if any supportive comments about Thistle. Alas anyone making no supportive comments about the Jags whatsoever just appears to mean they sit near me at away games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinsplustwo Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Alas anyone making no supportive comments about the Jags whatsoever just appears to mean they sit near me at away games. i,be told you before young lady about the company you keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Haha. And there it is. The thing I love the most about this forum. The rose tinted spectacle brigade who block people if they dare say something negative or opposite to the majority. Sad sad existence it must be living in a big happy clappy zombie world where everyone agrees with what you say. Still happy to say I've never blocked anyone on here and never will. There are threads started everyday with contributors offering alternate views that are discussed on this forum. You may see your content as a different opinion however as far as I am concerned you only ever focus on the negative which in itself can be accepted however it is not just negative but is often ridiculously critical and disrespectful to the club, manager, players or fellow fans. Just in this thread alone you implied Archie only won the league because it was someone else's team. This is a manager who won the championship and has secured our premiership status for three seasons yet you glibly dismiss these achievements. I suspect I am wasting my time here but when you get indignant and take the high ground with those that choose to ignore you pause and ask yourself why. Feel free to retort with a happy clapper type response I personally won't ignore you however I don't value your opinion, not because it usually differs to mine but just because there is no rational or reasoning to it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Tom, so you are saying if he goes now his CV will still be intact? Id very much doubt he would be thinking like that. If all we can 'expect' is 10th every season because we are a small club is it any wonder we get low crowds? People will come to see a successful team with ambitions of winning something, like we had better crowds when we won the league. Why should we go to ibrox and places like that if we know we wont win? Does nobody have anything else better to do on a saturday than to spend a small fortune to watch us get beat? As for this is the way its been for 33 years, as someone has already said, that is loser talk. We have a platform to build now with the youth setup and off the field issues seemingly improving. There is no reason why we cant do better. We're currently watching our most successful team in decades (not specifically this season, but these last few years as a whole), and attendances have been dropping steadily since promotion. I understand prices have risen, but our attendance really is poor considering this is as good a team as we've had in a long, long time. I really don't know what we can do to draw bigger crowds. Would the success of, say, a top 6 finish and Cup run really change much? A club like St Johnstone who are a mainstay in the top 6 and have qualified for Europe 3 or 4 years in a row are barely getting more in the gate than we are. Inverness won the Scottish Cup and nothing changed up there. Clubs like Kilmarnock and Motherwell's attendances are on a downward trajectory as well and much like ourselves I doubt they'd see any kind of massive spike if they were challenging for stuff. I don't think you can argue success would make any significant difference to our crowds, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 It depends how you define success. Staving off relegation the first 2 seasons i would class as fairly successful. Repeatedly avoiding relegation with no decent cup runs begins to get tedious and naturally people might not have the same enthusiasm. Our attendances in the league triumph where higher. Anyway we have Archie, were in for another long season. We will be there to support us through it and hope next season lessons have been learned and maybe we can reach a semi final or even god forbid take something off the old firm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Blows Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Bit rich Legend especially when you go into hibernation when the team is playing well. Yeah you're right. We've been sheeite since match day 2 and I've never been off this forum since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Blows Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Are you actually a Thistle fan ? I don't remember you making many if any supportive comments about Thistle. Amazingly yes even after 25 years supporting them and getting about 2 seasons in every 10 that are enjoyable. Just find the current team and onfield setup to be utterly utterly infuriating and depressing. Same old same old panning out and any sensible realistic fan can see where it is ultimately headed. Sorry I voice that on here and people don't want to hear it. We can't score, our defence can't keep a clean sheet and our manager has no plan B. We are worse than last year. Let's face facts people. Change of manager could've been exactly what we needed. Instead we'll stumble on with Archie (Sure he's a great guy etc..) but the squad he has assembled is not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Legend, put things in perspective ffs. You do remember the teams put out by the Bunnet? And you still say that the Jags today play unimaginatively? Archie has tried to get the team actually playing football. For that we should be grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Blows Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Legend, put things in perspective ffs. You do remember the teams put out by the Bunnet? And you still say that the Jags today play unimaginatively? Archie has tried to get the team actually playing football. For that we should be grateful. Trust me I have lived through many a grim season watching Thistle but my current frustration is Archie's total stubborness or ignorance to the fact that his tactics are not working. I love that we keep it down and pass teams to death but we are clueless and toothless in the final third and that continually comes back to bite us because we have such a porrus defence. Ultimately though, what is the point in playing pretty football if it leads to relegation. It appears to me that tactically he only seems to know one way to set up the team but sadly we currently don't have the personnel to make it work. If I could genuinely see efforts on the pitch to mix up and change our style and formation from week to week, I could cut Archie some slack. Sadly this is not the case and currently I cannot see how we are going to turn this slump around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaggernaut Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Superb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Here's hoping that Thistle fans will give Archie a rousing reception tomorrow,..... and that the players do so too in the best way possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 For all that there may be a distasteful element in criticism, TLB does make some valid points that relate to the approach of our management. IMHO a club with our level of finances is not really in a position to determine one system and force it on all teams because the finances don't exist to go out and purchase new players that will slot into vacancies. To give him his credit, Ian McCall was better at cutting his coat to suit his cloth, by setting up a team to take advantage of the players he had available. Archie has indeed shown an inflexibility in this aspect of team management and the price is paid in league position (because of goals not scored and not defended). For example, this has resulted in Doolan, our most capable scorer, often being left on the bench, or alternatively being allowed to run himself into the ground before being substituted for another single striker. Substitutions that change the formation are rarely made timeously, if at all, even where sound tactics call for it. There is an inherent conservatism that might even have been desirable in an inexperienced manager or coach, but surely that is no longer the case and more flexibility both in setting out a team and in changing tactics during matches is a skill that should be coming to the fore now. Sadly, that does not seem to be the case. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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