East Kent Jag II 88 Report post Posted January 13 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Unhappy bunnies https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55644550 Gary Deans' final sentences in the full statement are very interesting . They read "We have called for change and we are ready to play a leading role in the much needed reform that our national game requires. Change is required and urgently." I don't believe he is talking about another league reconstruction doomed to failure. Edited January 13 by East Kent Jag II Leading not loading Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dl1971 254 Report post Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Unhappy bunnies https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55644550 The plot thickens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Dastardly 778 Report post Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said: Gary Deans' final sentences in the full statement are very interesting . They read "We have called for change and we are ready to play a loading role in the much needed reform that our national game requires. Change is required and urgently." I don't believe he is talking about another league reconstruction doomed to failure. Dean’s letter is so much better thought out and worded compared to our rant 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garscube Road End 2 42 Report post Posted January 13 47 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Dean’s letter is so much better thought out and worded compared to our rant Indeed. No petulant, spitting the dummy out , woe is us garbage spouted by a totally inept and amateurish board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elevenone 440 Report post Posted January 13 Hold onto your sides and no one have drink in mouth when reading this. Peter Lawwell says Celtic have been hit worse than any by pandemic. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/19008871.peter-lawwell-issues-apology-celtic-fans-dubai-trip/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Dastardly 778 Report post Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, elevenone said: Hold onto your sides and no one have drink in mouth when reading this. Peter Lawwell says Celtic have been hit worse than any by pandemic. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/19008871.peter-lawwell-issues-apology-celtic-fans-dubai-trip/ Words fail me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: Words fail me OK i will say it. First time for everything @Dick Dastardly 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, elevenone said: Hold onto your sides and no one have drink in mouth when reading this. Peter Lawwell says Celtic have been hit worse than any by pandemic. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/19008871.peter-lawwell-issues-apology-celtic-fans-dubai-trip/ Have i missed something. Have they been demoted and then only 10 games into the season been ordered to stop playing football for at least 3 weeks. Didn't think so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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dl1971 254 Report post Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Dean’s letter is so much better thought out and worded compared to our rant It is a good statement. Standing up for their club. Is it really that different from our statement from an objective perspective? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Kent Jag II 88 Report post Posted January 13 46 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Have i missed something. Have they been demoted and then only 10 games into the season been ordered to stop playing football for at least 3 weeks. Didn't think so. If I was a cynic, I'd claim that a certain East End club would not be unhappy at the FM deciding that elite sport can't continue, and force SFA/SPFL to null and void the season, before half of the games are played. Whoops!!! too late Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenziejag 407 Report post Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Dean’s letter is so much better thought out and worded compared to our rant Is it really that different ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said: If I was a cynic, I'd claim that a certain East End club would not be unhappy at the FM deciding that elite sport can't continue, and force SFA/SPFL to null and void the season, before half of the games are played. Whoops!!! too late Wrong leagues have been 'paused'. Celtic would want the premier league null and void this season, unlike last season. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,349 Report post Posted January 13 54 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Is it really that different ? Language wise yes, his seems calm ours seems more a whine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muscat Jag 170 Report post Posted January 13 2 hours ago, elevenone said: Hold onto your sides and no one have drink in mouth when reading this. Peter Lawwell says Celtic have been hit worse than any by pandemic. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/19008871.peter-lawwell-issues-apology-celtic-fans-dubai-trip/ To top it all, Lawwell considers allegations of arrogance unfair. They honestly have no grip on reality, seem to exist in their own universe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Dastardly 778 Report post Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Is it really that different ? Ours came over like a rant. My thought was Kenneth Williams “Infamy ! Infamy ! Everyone’s got it in for me” Falkirks is more measured and ends with an action. It is far more effective communication. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belfastjag 19 Report post Posted January 13 2 hours ago, BowenBoys said: Get that on a tee shirt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 I feel that every club who feel that they have been unfairly treated should all get together. They should then release a joint statement about how this should have been handled that would not have meant teams being unfairly punished by being forced to stop playing without any consultation at all from the authorities who are meant to be looking after their best interest. The problem is the leagues that are affected, most fans don't care about leagues below premier, ever mind the leagues below championship. The teams also need to get the media to pay attention to our plight as well. Everybody knows they are only interested in 2 teams and it is not Thistle and Falkirk. Not an easy task, but our club and all other clubs who feel the same way need to make their concerns heard. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dl1971 254 Report post Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Language wise yes, his seems calm ours seems more a whine Don't agree. But its all about opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dl1971 254 Report post Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: I feel that every club who feel that they have been unfairly treated should all get together. They should then release a joint statement about how this should have been handled that would not have meant teams being unfairly punished by being forced to stop playing without any consultation at all from the authorities who are meant to be looking after their best interest. The problem is the leagues that are affected, most fans don't care about leagues below premier, ever mind the leagues below championship. The teams also need to get the media to pay attention to our plight as well. Everybody knows they are only interested in 2 teams and it is not Thistle and Falkirk. Not an easy task, but our club and all other clubs who feel the same way need to make their concerns heard. Agreed. Maybe get Falkirk to write it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Agreed. Maybe get Falkirk to write it? Not sure who would be involved, it would be a joint decision . As i say it needs to be a strong statement to get the attention of the media, who have more pressing things on their minds. Like sevco winning their first top league title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,349 Report post Posted January 13 32 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: I feel that every club who feel that they have been unfairly treated should all get together. They should then release a joint statement about how this should have been handled that would not have meant teams being unfairly punished by being forced to stop playing without any consultation at all from the authorities who are meant to be looking after their best interest. The problem is the leagues that are affected, most fans don't care about leagues below premier, ever mind the leagues below championship. The teams also need to get the media to pay attention to our plight as well. Everybody knows they are only interested in 2 teams and it is not Thistle and Falkirk. Not an easy task, but our club and all other clubs who feel the same way need to make their concerns heard. I agree on this, but instead of just highlighting the complaints the teams need to propose a working solution. The big issue is getting all to stand together especially when the off line conversations start coming from Lawell and Doncaster to clubs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auld Jag 1,896 Report post Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: I agree on this, but instead of just highlighting the complaints the teams need to propose a working solution. The big issue is getting all to stand together especially when the off line conversations start coming from Lawell and Doncaster to clubs Agree. A solution for completing this season is required. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenziejag 407 Report post Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: Ours came over like a rant. My thought was Kenneth Williams “Infamy ! Infamy ! Everyone’s got it in for me” Falkirks is more measured and ends with an action. It is far more effective communication. For me, the difference is that we warned the SPFL of the consequences of their actions(or at least claimed to have done). Falkirk waited until it was too late. The SPFL have a lot of explaining to do. Money was given to the SPFL by the guy Anderson to allow lower league clubs to test players and keep playing. The SPFL in their wisdom ? decided to allocate it across all leagues. Now they force div 1 & 2 to stop playing because they aren’t testing ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenziejag 407 Report post Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: I feel that every club who feel that they have been unfairly treated should all get together. They should then release a joint statement about how this should have been handled that would not have meant teams being unfairly punished by being forced to stop playing without any consultation at all from the authorities who are meant to be looking after their best interest. The problem is the leagues that are affected, most fans don't care about leagues below premier, ever mind the leagues below championship. The teams also need to get the media to pay attention to our plight as well. Everybody knows they are only interested in 2 teams and it is not Thistle and Falkirk. Not an easy task, but our club and all other clubs who feel the same way need to make their concerns heard. Unfortunately, this would get nowhere. The SPFL have stacked the deck in their favour again. 22 of 42 clubs are allowed to keep playing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites