javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 10 hours ago, gianlucatoni said: Ok I'll bite JJ - which particular parts are drivel & what would you do? If schools and universities are to remain open at all costs then society at large should be back fully open too - respective (& I use the following term loosely) governments are pissing in the wind shutting boozers at ten p.m. thinking that it will make one iota of a difference. Why anyone wants to stop the spread of the virus is a mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 How did Britain get back in this mess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Look chaps I get the why are they doing this , why don’t they do that comments but it’s hard not to be cautious when you are dealing with a new virus that has killed thousands of your fellow citizens and put more into hospital ( and indeed giving a lot of those who get the virus a very unpleasant time and we still don’t know the long term health effects ) what’s happening here is happening in most places the only way to restrict a virus that jumps from person to person is to restrict human interaction .....or you don’t and accept maybe 20,000 to 30000 people will die here based on a fatality rate if 0.4-0.5% if it infects the whole population we also have a context of a large number of people here with poor health, bad nutrition and a worrying relationship with alcohol which doesn’t help add in the following 1. Studies now showing COVID plus the winter flu is twice as deadly and keeps people in hospital twice as long 2. studies showing the virus is mutating to be more infectious 3. studies showing shielding vulnerable groups is extremely difficult maybe even impossible 4. a virus we still don’t know everything about 5. a govt in Westminster that is sadly basically incompetent so what do you do ? Keep everything open and hope for the best of try and restrict transmission ?....these are easy choices to make when you are not responsible for the outcomes of anything you propose ..... your damned if you do and damned if you don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Maybe its me reading too much into things but does the following quote from the UK secretary of state this morning not read like a hostage situation? i.e. 'if you want to see your kids again do as we say' Oliver Dowden said: "I want students to be able to go home for Christmas and if we all pull together and observe these new rules, we follow the guidance, then we should be able to get to a point where that should be possible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, javeajag said: Look chaps I get the why are they doing this , why don’t they do that comments but it’s hard not to be cautious when you are dealing with a new virus that has killed thousands of your fellow citizens and put more into hospital ( and indeed giving a lot of those who get the virus a very unpleasant time and we still don’t know the long term health effects ) what’s happening here is happening in most places the only way to restrict a virus that jumps from person to person is to restrict human interaction .....or you don’t and accept maybe 20,000 to 30000 people will die here based on a fatality rate if 0.4-0.5% if it infects the whole population we also have a context of a large number of people here with poor health, bad nutrition and a worrying relationship with alcohol which doesn’t help add in the following 1. Studies now showing COVID plus the winter flu is twice as deadly and keeps people in hospital twice as long 2. studies showing the virus is mutating to be more infectious 3. studies showing shielding vulnerable groups is extremely difficult maybe even impossible 4. a virus we still don’t know everything about 5. a govt in Westminster that is sadly basically incompetent so what do you do ? Keep everything open and hope for the best of try and restrict transmission ?....these are easy choices to make when you are not responsible for the outcomes of anything you propose ..... your damned if you do and damned if you don’t or you are damned by a one line keyboard warrior bullshitteer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, javeajag said: Look chaps I get the why are they doing this , why don’t they do that comments but it’s hard not to be cautious when you are dealing with a new virus that has killed thousands of your fellow citizens and put more into hospital ( and indeed giving a lot of those who get the virus a very unpleasant time and we still don’t know the long term health effects ) what’s happening here is happening in most places the only way to restrict a virus that jumps from person to person is to restrict human interaction .....or you don’t and accept maybe 20,000 to 30000 people will die here based on a fatality rate if 0.4-0.5% if it infects the whole population we also have a context of a large number of people here with poor health, bad nutrition and a worrying relationship with alcohol which doesn’t help add in the following 1. Studies now showing COVID plus the winter flu is twice as deadly and keeps people in hospital twice as long 2. studies showing the virus is mutating to be more infectious 3. studies showing shielding vulnerable groups is extremely difficult maybe even impossible 4. a virus we still don’t know everything about 5. a govt in Westminster/Edinburgh that is sadly basically incompetent so what do you do ? Keep everything open and hope for the best of try and restrict transmission ?....these are easy choices to make when you are not responsible for the outcomes of anything you propose ..... your damned if you do and damned if you don’t changed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, gianlucatoni said: changed it for you Actually you didn’t as you have nothing to say , add or contribute ... an empty vessel Edited September 27, 2020 by javeajag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, gianlucatoni said: or you are damned by a one line keyboard warrior bullshitteer Self image ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 an example of the UK govt craziness..... The English “NHS” Covid app only wants to know about COVID tests from Serco/private testing If you had a test in an NHS or PHE lab, you literally cannot enter the result on the app. how mad is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, javeajag said: an example of the UK govt craziness..... The English “NHS” Covid app only wants to know about COVID tests from Serco/private testing If you had a test in an NHS or PHE lab, you literally cannot enter the result on the app. how mad is that I think I saw this morning that these problems have been fixed. I didn’t read the whole article so may be wrong - something about getting a code to input to the app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 hours ago, javeajag said: Actually you didn’t as you have nothing to say , add or contribute ... an empty vessel Wow! To be dismissed by a vacuous moron is a true achievement thanks! You still haven't bothered explaining why you thought a post was "drivel" despite being specifically asked to do so before posting your unoriginal Sunday Post-esque hey "chaps" analogy of how you see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, gianlucatoni said: Wow! To be dismissed by a vacuous moron is a true achievement thanks! You still haven't bothered explaining why you thought a post was "drivel" despite being specifically asked to do so before posting your unoriginal Sunday Post-esque hey "chaps" analogy of how you see it What a joker ....go to the pub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: What a joker ....go to the pub Quality debate ... why should I go to the pub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Anyone remember the year 1BV when this forum used to be about PTFC. Not saying Covid-19 isn't important but can ADMIN not find another venue for the debate? Edited September 28, 2020 by a f kincaid 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policemans whistle Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, a f kincaid said: Anyone remember the year 1BV when this forum used to be about PTFC. Not saying Covid-19 isn't important but can ADMIN not find another venue for the debate? I agree. This thread has developed into nothing about the Jags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, policemans whistle said: I agree. This thread has developed into nothing about the Jags. Looks like people have self isolated from non football topic on this thread. Last post was 20 odd hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Zak Rudden, injured? Could be a 20 goal striker in league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Apologies to my fellow forumistas for adding to the pish recently on this banal thread - let's hope the season gets started proper soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, elevenone said: Zak Rudden, injured? Could be a 20 goal striker in league 1 I am sure i read that Rudden was injured. I don't think he has been fully fit since he came to us. I think he got injured while on loan at Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Auld Jag said: I am sure i read that Rudden was injured. I don't think he has been fully fit since he came to us. I think he got injured while on loan at Plymouth. There shouldn't really be any excuse for him not to be fully fit. I understand you can pick up niggly injuries from time to time but hes yet to kick a ball in anger for us in approaching 10 month. I think McCall said in an interview (after BSC game) that he was looking good prior to this latest set back so fingers crossed he can finally start looking like the player we all have high hopes for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 I see the Highland League have delayed their season start till Nov 28th at earliest. My totally unqualified opinion is that the average Highland League ground will be better suited to social distancing (thus allowing in paying customers) than the likes of Firhill and all the other stadia that are all seated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I see the Highland League have delayed their season start till Nov 28th at earliest. My totally unqualified opinion is that the average Highland League ground will be better suited to social distancing (thus allowing in paying customers) than the likes of Firhill and all the other stadia that are all seated. Think the issue is these players will also be working in a full time job so no football bubble and with no requirement for testing the risk is too high of clubs being unable to field teams (and getting fined). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Think the issue is these players will also be working in a full time job so no football bubble and with no requirement for testing the risk is too high of clubs being unable to field teams (and getting fined). Another issue is that the Highland League clubs can't afford to play without fans. The way things are going, even 28 November might be optimistic for that. Macclesfield Town ejected from the National League, with £500,000 debts. Another very old club fallen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Think the issue is these players will also be working in a full time job so no football bubble and with no requirement for testing the risk is too high of clubs being unable to field teams (and getting fined). The vast majority of teams in leagues 1 and 2 in the same situation. I think the deadline for them is Friday. Although it does say in the article about the highland league not playing until November the other leagues will start in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: The vast majority of teams in leagues 1 and 2 in the same situation. I think the deadline for them is Friday. Although it does say in the article about the highland league not playing until November the other leagues will start in October. What happens if majority of league 1 and 2 decide not to play? Do we then not play, have a mini league or get added to championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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