Lenziejag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: I thought that was disgraceful. If my manager said something like that about me I would be straight on to HR with a complaint. It wasn’t even said with any humour. I hope he apologised to them afterwards, but I wouldn’t bank on it. Was he wrong about them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Was he wrong about them ? Whether he was or not, you just can’t say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Dick Dastardly said: Whether he was or not, you just can’t say that. You can’t say something that’s true ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: You can’t say something that’s true ? Would you say a racist, homophobic, sexist or sectarian comment ? There is no difference in this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Would you say a racist, homophobic, sexist or sectarian comment ? There is no difference in this. Jesus lighten up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arete Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 McCall's comments were made in jest, I think, but that doesn't detract from the inappropriate way of talking about employees. Probably only becomes an issue if one of them complained but someone at the club maybe needs a quiet word with him. Football might think it's different but it's just another business subject to same rules as the rest of us. Just Employment Law is a sponsor - maybe we should ask their thoughts on the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alx Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 FFS. I don't like hippies, vegans, Pink Floyd, vegies etc etc. Anyoo, as I was saying to Stewarty. Brilliant result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Arete said: McCall's comments were made in jest, I think, but that doesn't detract from the inappropriate way of talking about employees. Probably only becomes an issue if one of them complained but someone at the club maybe needs a quiet word with him. Football might think it's different but it's just another business subject to same rules as the rest of us. Just Employment Law is a sponsor - maybe we should ask their thoughts on the comments. Ffs get a grip …..it was a laugh as the tweet from tiffoney shows….some people are giving political correctness a bad name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I found this on you tube. Think it's hilarious https://youtu.be/rG5BhDqxFOc Good wee Vlog. Watched it a couple of hours ago, and he had 70 subscribers. Now he has 78. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arete Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, javeajag said: Ffs get a grip …..it was a laugh as the tweet from tiffoney shows….some people are giving political correctness a bad name You're missing the point. JEL put money into the club and we shouldn't be embarrassing sponsors. McCall should keep his 'banter' out of public interviews. He's a senior employee. And the club shouldn't put players up for interviews if they think the players aren't up to that. We might not like it but the club operates in 2021 not the 1970s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Tiff and Rudden may have accepted is as banter, but what about a viewer who may suffer with learning difficulties ? Some types of banter is fine in private, but you don’t know who you you are speaking to on national TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, Arete said: You're missing the point. JEL put money into the club and we shouldn't be embarrassing sponsors. McCall should keep his 'banter' out of public interviews. He's a senior employee. And the club shouldn't put players up for interviews if they think the players aren't up to that. We might not like it but the club operates in 2021 not the 1970s. I’m not missing any point ….I watched it live …..tiffoney and rudden were let’s say in need of eh media training …..it was funny and I for one took no offense but of course the offense police are out with their buckets of cold water …..for me it passed the billy Connolly test do you work in the public sector ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I think if IMcC had made a remark about them never putting Richard Foster's media career in jeapordy it would have been just as funny without referring to a characteristic that no-one has control over. We can educate ourselves but intellectual capacity is something we are born with. On the subject of RF in the media. I wonder if we would have been as much the talk of the airwaves if he wasn't a regular on BBC sports programs. I haven't listened or watched other outlets so can't compare coverages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, scotty said: I think if IMcC had made a remark about them never putting Richard Foster's media career in jeapordy it would have been just as funny without referring to a characteristic that no-one has control over. We can educate ourselves but intellectual capacity is something we are born with. On the subject of RF in the media. I wonder if we would have been as much the talk of the airwaves if he wasn't a regular on BBC sports programs. I haven't listened or watched other outlets so can't compare coverages. Current academic research indicates about 50% of intelligence is due to genetic factors …unless your suggesting it’s 100% for our lads ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 That was all a bit depressing. Einstein said “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Edited October 8 by Dick Dastardly So was it Ian McCall or the players you believe are insane? Now I know you are not their employer but is it only wrong to suggest something has a mental health issue if they work for you? I am all for people treating and being treated correctly but good old common sense must still have a part to play (I hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, javeajag said: Current academic research indicates about 50% of intelligence is due to genetic factors …unless your suggesting it’s 100% for our lads ? 50% or 100%. Is it ok to make fun of a characteristic someone is born with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Top 4 at the end of the first quarter (just). Not bad considering we’ve been missing Brownlie and Bell in an inexperienced central defence. If we’re still there come January and can add a bit of experience and a steadying influence plus maybe a defensive midfielder then who knows.. Kilmarnock are favourites but so were Falkirk last season. Converting a couple of defeats into a win and a draw in the coming quarters would guarantee a play off spot.. or better. Dunfermline took a point off Killie today so although we cuffed them first time might be tougher next week. I’ll be approaching the game with the same reserved caution I did last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 We all know the stories of managers throwing cups in dressing rooms, hairdryer treatment etc. Rightly or wrongly behaviour that would not be accepted in other workplaces is acceptable at football clubs. I hope if McCall reflects on what he said he will have a word with the players if he feels that it is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arete Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, javeajag said: I’m not missing any point ….I watched it live …..tiffoney and rudden were let’s say in need of eh media training …..it was funny and I for one took no offense but of course the offense police are out with their buckets of cold water …..for me it passed the billy Connolly test do you work in the public sector ? Ha, I have worked in the public sector - how did you know.....? I think it was a witty quip in the way that Bernard Manning and Benny Hill used to be seen as funny. Maybe not now. I'm glad if the guys have taken it in the way intended. But just think the manager needs to remember he's a senior representative of the club and I'd like our club to be professional at all times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Several people on this thread shouldn't bother turning up at Firhill again given their low threshold for interpreting humour. Seriously, trying to get past night's comments cited under HR guidelines? Get a grip folks - real life isn't play station thankfully, and it's all the better for it. Edited October 16, 2021 by Barney Rubble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Arete said: Ha, I have worked in the public sector - how did you know.....? I think it was a witty quip in the way that Bernard Manning and Benny Hill used to be seen as funny. Maybe not now. I'm glad if the guys have taken it in the way intended. But just think the manager needs to remember he's a senior representative of the club and I'd like our club to be professional at all times. Really ? I thought it was funny in the context of a dreadful interview they gave …. I can see why billy Connolly thinks some people would have him cancelled now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Only on this forum can someone hone in on an off the cuff comment, rather than wax lyrical about a magnificent result. McCall probably a bit naive to have said it on live TV, but a bit of common sense balance please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Auld Jag said: We all know the stories of managers throwing cups in dressing rooms, hairdryer treatment etc. Rightly or wrongly behaviour that would not be accepted in other workplaces is acceptable at football clubs. I hope if McCall reflects on what he said he will have a word with the players if he feels that it is required. This. (No more likes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: But a 100% conversion rate from corners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Arete said: Ha, I have worked in the public sector - how did you know.....? I think it was a witty quip in the way that Bernard Manning and Benny Hill used to be seen as funny. Maybe not now. I'm glad if the guys have taken it in the way intended. But just think the manager needs to remember he's a senior representative of the club and I'd like our club to be professional at all times. Lumping Benny Hill in with Bernard Manning, really? Thousands of people across the planet still find Benny Hill funny, judging by his Youtube hits and comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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