Lenziejag Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, sandy said: Read up the thread and you shall see Classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) All done and dusted. Nothing to see hear! Big game on Friday in the prestigious Trust Trophy . Show your true worth as a Jags fan and get behind the team and drive us to glory. Champions League in 2024 lads. Edited September 22, 2022 by Garscube Road End 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Classy Glad you agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, sandy said: I hope Graham succeeds. I’d like to see Gerry’s role in this put to the test. I'd like to hear him and Low questioned by Spiers which is why it will never happen unless they can say 'no comment it's commercially sensitive' at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, fifexile said: I'd like to hear him and Low questioned by Spiers which is why it will never happen unless they can say 'no comment it's commercially sensitive' at every turn. I appreciate Spiers trying but one of the things that the death of Rangers flagged up was how unaware sports journalists are of club financial affairs, how out their depth they were on asking the right questions and how easily they were palmed off with answers from club officials. It wasn't until people like Alex Thomson from channel 4 and other non-Scottish football journalists started analysing and asking questions that the true state of affairs came to the surface. I would love to see Britton and Low interviewed by a financial journalist on why they couldn't allow TJF to be party to what sounds like relatively standard financial practice. I suspect a good financial journalist would not get palmed off with 'no comment it's commercially sensitive' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Lenziejag said: I think their statement was slightly different from the due diligence TJF was going to carry out. Didn’t it say they saw the draft audited accounts and Management Accounts ? As you say how in depth their review was is anybody’s guess really. It is strange they were granted access and TJF were denied it. These were exactly what we asked for and were denied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 hours ago, stolenscone said: As an aside, I expect that the Thistle supporter who was threatened with legal action will be relieved to know they're not having to use up holidays attending court. It's a classy way to treat a fellow human. Try supporters. There was more than 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: These were exactly what we asked for and were denied I know it is hard to believe, but in this instance I am supporting TJF. I suspect your scrutiny would have been more thorough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Lenziejag said: I think their statement was slightly different from the due diligence TJF was going to carry out. Didn’t it say they saw the draft audited accounts and Management Accounts ? As you say how in depth their review was is anybody’s guess really. It is strange they were granted access and TJF were denied it. No. Here is what the PTFC Trust statement says. The most recent management accounts and a cashflow statement for the current season were exactly what we asked for. Peter Shand told us, in June, in no uncertain terms, that we would not get this under any circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Weren’t the Trust supposed to be giving an interview to the Evening Times today ? But I agree with you and others re Lows intent to stay on. What’s in it for her ? Where was that mentioned? Not seen it posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Did anyone from the Trust or TJF agree to go on Graham Spiers' podcast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, stolenscone said: Did anyone from the Trust or TJF agree to go on Graham Spiers' podcast? Yes the Foundation had a couple of board members on it. The Trust was absent as expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Who went on, Stuart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 https://www.patreon.com/posts/72348503?utm_campaign=postshare_fan Link but behind paywall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Was a good listen. I hope Spiers and others stick with covering the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Did anyone listen to the podcast and if so did anyone from Trust go on as I know Graham Spiers reached out to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, stolenscone said: Who went on, Stuart? Ian and Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Where was that mentioned? Not seen it posted I am sure James Cairney said at the bottom of his article on Tuesday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 I wouldn't be surprised if someone from the Trust is willing to speak to Graham Spiers without TJF present. They seem happy to occasionally give interviews so long as there isn't anyone in the room with enough knowledge of events to pin them down to answer a challenging question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, MarciaBlaine said: Was a good listen. I hope Spiers and others stick with covering the story. What was the gist of the discussion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 16 hours ago, fifexile said: I'd like to hear him and Low questioned by Spiers which is why it will never happen unless they can say 'no comment it's commercially sensitive' at every turn. Or 'legally privileged' or whatever obfuscation it was they used about Colin Weir's wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Unbeliever Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: I am sure James Cairney said at the bottom of his article on Tuesday ? I thought it was Thursday but there was definitely something there. Doesn't appear to be there any more though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: What was the gist of the discussion ? I think for most of us who know the ins and outs of the story it was a recap, but the Jags Foundation guys came across well and importantly it was refreshing to have a relative outsider (Spiers) giving an unbiased view on the ridiculousness of it all. He was very clear that the whole transfer stinks. If I had a criticism it would be that Spiers could perhaps have sketched out the full timeline a bit better to make the narrative easier to follow for newcomers. Hard to do though, when it’s such a murky tale. And of course having representation from PTFC Trust or the club board would have been ideal but they didn’t respond. He wants to get their view too and I’ll certainly be tuning in to that if he manages to track them down, though I don’t hold out a lot of hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, MarciaBlaine said: I think for most of us who know the ins and outs of the story it was a recap, but the Jags Foundation guys came across well and importantly it was refreshing to have a relative outsider (Spiers) giving an unbiased view on the ridiculousness of it all. He was very clear that the whole transfer stinks. If I had a criticism it would be that Spiers could perhaps have sketched out the full timeline a bit better to make the narrative easier to follow for newcomers. Hard to do though, when it’s such a murky tale. And of course having representation from PTFC Trust or the club board would have been ideal but they didn’t respond. He wants to get their view too and I’ll certainly be tuning in to that if he manages to track them down, though I don’t hold out a lot of hope. Thanks. Shame it was on such a niche platform rather than mainstream media. Lets hope that they start to catch up, especially if they start to think there is a story in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, MarciaBlaine said: I think for most of us who know the ins and outs of the story it was a recap, but the Jags Foundation guys came across well and importantly it was refreshing to have a relative outsider (Spiers) giving an unbiased view on the ridiculousness of it all. He was very clear that the whole transfer stinks. If I had a criticism it would be that Spiers could perhaps have sketched out the full timeline a bit better to make the narrative easier to follow for newcomers. Hard to do though, when it’s such a murky tale. And of course having representation from PTFC Trust or the club board would have been ideal but they didn’t respond. He wants to get their view too and I’ll certainly be tuning in to that if he manages to track them down, though I don’t hold out a lot of hope. Didn't hear the podcast but to be fair to Spiers he asked the other day on Twitter (Facebook?) for info re this matter. So he probably wasn't in a position to formulate an accurate timeline as such. Hopefully he now has that info and his interest creates some momentum within the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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