Duke Gekantawa Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 3 hours ago, Dr.D said: Some other reasons that put people off may be down to the Council eliminating parking facilities around the stadium and installing parking meters forcing supporters to park further away; restricting the width of streets such as Garscube Road to accommodate cyclists, thus causing major road congestion, both approaching and especially leaving; Football bodies frequently changing dates to suit T.V. - after all, Saturdays are Football days! This is the balance of having a reasonably central ground. Many other clubs have moved to an out of town ground which may be easy to park at, but is poor for the match day experience otherwise (poor public trnasport, difficult to get to by bike, no decent pubs/cafes etc nearby). I think it's perfectly fair that the council has prioritised resident parking over the needs of the occasional visitor. However we have good public transport links, free parking is still available a close walk away and the improved cycle infastructure makes it a lot easier to cycle to the game. On top of this, we have loads of pubs and amenities nearby. Also, an advantage of playing outside of the top flight is the vast majority of matches are still 3pm on a Saturday, so that's not really an issue for now (for us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 4 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Do we have a problem. The 1st 2 home game attendances are about 20% up on last season and over 40% on the season before. Even just comparing to the same opposition it’s 15% and over 35% up. I don't think we have a problem I think the numbers you have show the size of the opportunity. Normal home support for us over roughly the last 40/50 years has bounced between 1800 and mid 2000's. Even when we were in the premier league our base didn't grow by much and certainly didn't sustain. I'm not clear on why we have seen a growth in attendances. Clearly the playoff runs, the attacking football we played and the atmosphere the young team brought coincided with the increase. The desire of youngsters to attend games is possibly a counter reaction to covid lockdown. On either possible explanation those circumstances are likely to be not there for very much longer. So to my mind we have a one off opportunity that we need to act pretty quickly on to ensure that we retain the recent increases and convert more youngsters into adult season ticket holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 8 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: I like that idea! The more you spend, the more points you earn, which can then be exchanged for or used towards further purchases etc. And a small discount, accumulating each season, for buying a season ticket in consecutive seasons would be attractive. Just needs a catchy name like Aero Myles... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 I bought my first season ticket circa 1970 and have got one every season since. My main reason for buying it is to help the club get money in early, also as i usually go to every home game it works to my advantage as it works out cheaper than pay at the gate. I don't expect any discount or a points reward system for buying it for so long, because as i have said the club benefits from getting money in early and i get X amount of free games if i go to every home game, so win/win for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 4 hours ago, scotty said: Talking about parking. How long will it be before restrictions are put on parking on the footpath at Firhill Court? When I was leaving Firhill on Saturday, there was a very irate wheelchair user who could not go anywhere because of cars parked on the footpath. As this is part of the canal towpath I would think that complaints to certain bodies will need to be addressed. Not just at football but in general parking on the pavement seems to be quite prevalent and also cyclists who are not kids cycling on the pavement, time that they were fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said: This is the balance of having a reasonably central ground. Many other clubs have moved to an out of town ground which may be easy to park at, but is poor for the match day experience otherwise (poor public trnasport, difficult to get to by bike, no decent pubs/cafes etc nearby). I think it's perfectly fair that the council has prioritised resident parking over the needs of the occasional visitor. However we have good public transport links, free parking is still available a close walk away and the improved cycle infastructure makes it a lot easier to cycle to the game. On top of this, we have loads of pubs and amenities nearby. Also, an advantage of playing outside of the top flight is the vast majority of matches are still 3pm on a Saturday, so that's not really an issue for now (for us). Glasgow most certainly does not have either of these things. In the days of the 18, 23 and 29 trams and the 105 trolleybus maybe, but certainly not nowadays. For the benefit of anyone born since the Beatles were a phenomenon, I'm referring to the 60s when the motor car wasn't a necessity, and fish suppers cost the equivalent of 5 pence. Glasgow has to be amongst the worst served major cities inEurope for public transport. Even Edinburgh trashes us in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 13 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Glasgow most certainly does not have either of these things. In the days of the 18, 23 and 29 trams and the 105 trolleybus maybe, but certainly not nowadays. For the benefit of anyone born since the Beatles were a phenomenon, I'm referring to the 60s when the motor car wasn't a necessity, and fish suppers cost the equivalent of 5 pence. Glasgow has to be amongst the worst served major cities inEurope for public transport. Even Edinburgh trashes us in that respect. Really? I’ve never had any trouble getting around on public transport in the 25 years I’ve lived here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Public transport in Glasgow is decent and far better than Edinburgh. We beat them on Subway and local train network alone. Loads of buses too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 14 hours ago, laukat said: I don't think we have a problem I think the numbers you have show the size of the opportunity. Normal home support for us over roughly the last 40/50 years has bounced between 1800 and mid 2000's. Even when we were in the premier league our base didn't grow by much and certainly didn't sustain. I'm not clear on why we have seen a growth in attendances. Clearly the playoff runs, the attacking football we played and the atmosphere the young team brought coincided with the increase. The desire of youngsters to attend games is possibly a counter reaction to covid lockdown. On either possible explanation those circumstances are likely to be not there for very much longer. So to my mind we have a one off opportunity that we need to act pretty quickly on to ensure that we retain the recent increases and convert more youngsters into adult season ticket holders. Maybe converting supporters into ST holders isn’t the problem we should be trying to solve. What is the purpose of pushing ST sales ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 15 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Maybe converting supporters into ST holders isn’t the problem we should be trying to solve. What is the purpose of pushing ST sales ? It brings income at the start of the season. It's easier to budget when you know in advance what the gate receipts are going to be rather than wait for Saturday to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, scotty said: It brings income at the start of the season. It's easier to budget when you know in advance what the gate receipts are going to be rather than wait for Saturday to come. Further to this I believe the level of ST sales will be a reasonable barometer as to anticipated home fan attendance during the ensuing season. Far from an exact science but the Club will have data from previous seasons to go on. Data re level of new (first time) ST holders may be particularly helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, scotty said: It brings income at the start of the season. It's easier to budget when you know in advance what the gate receipts are going to be rather than wait for Saturday to come. Ok. At the moment, we need that income because our cash is low. So, that is a problem we need to resolve. It would definitely be better if we didn’t need that boost every season. I am not really sure how ST sales helps budget. It certainly gives a low end base, but if we were basing this season’s budget on last season attendance vs ST, we may well be budgeting at least 20% on the low side. Bearing in mind we are only 2 home games in and not had the best start to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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