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Clearly he realised his mistake in keeping them up last season and was determined to put that right this season but wasn’t given the time. 

Maybe he’s been asked to return to Firhill and give Doolan some badly needed advice…..
light the fuse paper and retreat 🤡

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Was reading some of the replies on the Clyde announcement and my god if it didn’t read “McCall” you could swear it was about Dools - team rotating too much, no identity, enough talent to be higher up the league, no defined style, attacking down one wing only…..

I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in SOME role.  Doubt we could afford another wage at this point though.

 

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2 hours ago, ChiThistle said:

Was reading some of the replies on the Clyde announcement and my god if it didn’t read “McCall” you could swear it was about Dools - team rotating too much, no identity, enough talent to be higher up the league, no defined style, attacking down one wing only…..

I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in SOME role.  Doubt we could afford another wage at this point though.

 

True enough re the parallels with Doolan. Both Clyde and us appear to have assembled squads geared for promotion. Indeed may well have overspent in such a quest. Certainly the sum of the parts are currently way exceeding the whole at both clubs. 

I admit there was a time not long ago I would've been in favour of a McCall/Doolan partnership. McCall in charge of scouting, contracts etc with Doolan overseeing coaching and doing all the touchline stuff. Part of me still believes that sort of set up may be an option, but with someone different in the former role. If McCall is making the same mistakes as Doolan and vice versa we can kick the idea of that partnership into touch.

McCall must feel a bit like Ian Murray did at Raith a couple of months ago and wish he'd left Clyde at the end of last season. Gone out on a high instead of suffering the indignity of being sacked by of all clubs, Clyde.

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Thought it a bit harsh to be honest-  given he took them 10 Points adrift last January and kept them up 

Two Points separating 5 Teams in that Division - 7 Points off a Play Off Spot  

We have Two Points separating 4 Teams in our Division - we are 5 Points off a Play Off Spot 

Football Management is a brutal Job - one minute Fans are Singing your name - then there demanding your sacked 

In Fairness he had Been Pro Youth at Celtic - then Queens Park - Rangers - Thistle & Clyde in various capacities - not many people can say they have been at all five "Glasgow" Clubs 😀  

 

 

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We have a lot to thank Ian McCall for, but unfortunately his time came to an end and very few can argue that Doolan got better results with the same squad.

All the best to McCall, unless he comes up against Thistle and he does a 'Clyde' on us again.

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Fans are rarely wrong. Read the Clyde fans comments on P&B and other forums. Some posters on here, and one in particular, are obviously upset at their hero being binned. But how much did they really know about how Clyde were performing, playing, the tactics etc?
And personally, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near Firhill in any role. We can’t look backwards. He wasn’t fired for no reason. 

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3 hours ago, Big Col said:

Fans are rarely wrong. Read the Clyde fans comments on P&B and other forums. Some posters on here, and one in particular, are obviously upset at their hero being binned. But how much did they really know about how Clyde were performing, playing, the tactics etc?
And personally, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near Firhill in any role. We can’t look backwards. He wasn’t fired for no reason. 

Im assuming that this is aimed at myself - first forget your "Hero" rubbish - is Ian McCall a friend - Yes - I've known him since he played in Hong Kong 

Where is it in any way suggesting I was "upset" at MCCall leaving Clyde - as it turns out it actually was mutual - neither party saw it going anywhere and he should have left at the end of last Season 

Pointing out that Clyde have dumped there Manager ( who saved them from going out of the Professional Leagues for the First Time in History )  in pretty much an identical position where Thistle sit - is by any measure harsh 

As for his periods at thistle - Both times he inherited Carcrashes - rebuilt - handed over a Strong Squad to the next Manager - in Football things don't work out - Managers get sacked - but lets not rewrite History 

 

 

   

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1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Im assuming that this is aimed at myself - first forget your "Hero" rubbish - is Ian McCall a friend - Yes - I've known him since he played in Hong Kong 

Where is it in any way suggesting I was "upset" at MCCall leaving Clyde - as it turns out it actually was mutual - neither party saw it going anywhere and he should have left at the end of last Season 

Pointing out that Clyde have dumped there Manager ( who saved them from going out of the Professional Leagues for the First Time in History )  in pretty much an identical position where Thistle sit - is by any measure harsh 

As for his periods at thistle - Both times he inherited Carcrashes - rebuilt - handed over a Strong Squad to the next Manager - in Football things don't work out - Managers get sacked - but lets not rewrite History 

 

 

   

I know you prob can’t share private friend chat but do you think he will still be on lookout for new job somewhere or will the Clyde experience douse his interest in football management?

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Has there actually been any discussion about a director of football anywhere apart from on fans forums? Does a club the size of ours need one? Was McCall not in effect a director of football, in a limited capacity, if according to rumours he didn't involve himself in the training? Will this talk go away if McCall either announces that he's retiring from football or gets another job?

Who am I and what am I doing here? :thinking:

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3 hours ago, scotty said:

Has there actually been any discussion about a director of football anywhere apart from on fans forums? Does a club the size of ours need one? Was McCall not in effect a director of football, in a limited capacity, if according to rumours he didn't involve himself in the training? Will this talk go away if McCall either announces that he's retiring from football or gets another job?

Who am I and what am I doing here? :thinking:

The director of football/head coach thingy is totally hypothetical with me. Personally I think too many young coaches are lost to the game. Often no matter how talented they are tactically etc they can't handle the other aspects of management. By that I mean contracts, scouting, man-management and all the other behind the scenes stuff. Initially by and large a new young manager even with all his badges will most likely have had zero experience in all off field matters.

Not long ago I'd have said McCall fitted the bill of D of F. His strengths were all behind the scenes in recruitment, contracting and general man-management. Maybe they still are but it looks to me like he's failed miserably in that very department at Clyde. Feel it's important to differentiate between the concept of the D of F/Head Coach model and inventing that set up to primarily re-employ Ian McCall.

As to whether a club our size can justify a director of football is a pertinent question. I'd suggest yes as there's likely to be more stability. Less likely to have to pay off a young head coach but when necessary, less upheaval. Also having a D of F possibly means one less on the coaching staff as the Head Coach would be considerably less distracted dealing with off field matters. 

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