javeajag Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/update-from-club-chairman-richard-beastall-4th-february-2025/ interesting it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) So the playing budget is getting cut by 20% and some of those savings are being used to employ a sporting director? I’d rather have decent players on the pitch thanks. Edited February 4 by Big Col 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I hope they don’t give it to someone like Archie who’s a good coach, very good coach but calamitous at recruitment, gives massive part of it is recruitment. Would also look like a bit of nepotism as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I hope they don’t give it to someone like Archie who’s a good coach, very good coach but calamitous at recruitment, gives massive part of it is recruitment. Would also look like a bit of nepotism as well While I’m not at all advocating for Archie for this role (he definitely lost his way by the end), he was absolutely not calamitous at recruitment. The year on year improvement which culminated in a top 6 finish was achieved with mainly his own signings. The majority of the team that won promotion was not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I hope they don’t give it to someone like Archie who’s a good coach, very good coach but calamitous at recruitment, gives massive part of it is recruitment. Would also look like a bit of nepotism as well Not sure where you are getting these names from mate? The one a lot of Thistle fans will think of is a more recent ex-manager. He would be a Marmite choice too. It'll be interesting to find out who gets the role. Edited February 4 by jagfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Decent statement from the club. I appreciate they couldn't confirm the two in and two out from yesterday but would it of hurt to state why we were releasing a raft of players earlier in the window? I think we all know we will be back to living within our means from next season moving forwards. We need to adjust our signing policy to getting younger players with a potential resale value rather than going for the more experienced players McCall and Doolan have favoured to fill the first team. We have a decent core signed up so hopefully the DoF and management team can put together an effective signing policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 4 Author Report Share Posted February 4 Personally I am happy to my views on any individual to one side if they are competent in identifying good players. Player recruitment is a key role in any club and our is pretty hit or miss. a good development if we get the right person ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 21 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: While I’m not at all advocating for Archie for this role (he definitely lost his way by the end), he was absolutely not calamitous at recruitment. The year on year improvement which culminated in a top 6 finish was achieved with mainly his own signings. The majority of the team that won promotion was not good enough. Nope his best signings were ones McCall and McNamara signed - eg Doolan, Erskine, Lawless, O Donnell etc He got the odd gem like Osman and Cerny but so many others were truly appalling likes of awful pogba, storey, McGinty, Azeez, Ecvleston that were beyond dreadful. Even signed Cernys best mate Niteansky without doing proper research and as a complete gamble which While the others like seabourne and Dumbaya had histories of injuries and surprise surprise after a couple of months were completely injured again. Also reeks of complete nepotism to give it to Archie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 26 minutes ago, jagfox said: Not sure where you are getting these names from mate? The one a lot of Thistle fans will think of is a more recent ex-manager. He would be a Marmite choice too. It'll be interesting to find out who gets the role. To be fair mate Archie is quite a recent manager and assistant manager. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: To be fair mate Archie is quite a recent manager and assistant manager. 😉 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Just now, jagfox said: 👀 Or was there someone else you thought in with a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Duncan Ferguson, welcome to PTFC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, ChiThistle said: Duncan Ferguson, welcome to PTFC! That's plenty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Or was there someone else you thought in with a chance I was alluding to Mr McCall being quoted with an interest. Not for me personally but plenty will see him as an option. Not sure if he'll be considered by the board though? We'll find out soon enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, jagfox said: I was alluding to Mr McCall being quoted with an interest. Not for me personally but plenty will see him as an option. Not sure if he'll be considered by the board though? We'll find out soon enough... When a certain poster talked about this previously, there was an opinion put forward that the Director of Football (or whatever it is titled) would be responsible for mens', womans' and youth teams and this ruled out certain names, either because they wouldn't want to include all football or it was felt they were not interested in anything apart from mens' team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, jagfox said: I was alluding to Mr McCall being quoted with an interest. Not for me personally but plenty will see him as an option. Not sure if he'll be considered by the board though? We'll find out soon enough... If McCall ever comes back to Thistle, That is me done with the club. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Was a time I thought McCall would be fine with us in a recruitment role. Far from sure now after his latter spell at Clyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: If McCall ever comes back to Thistle, That is me done with the club. End of. I think you should be okay Mr D 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Just now, lady-isobel-barnett said: Was a time I thought McCall would be fine with us in a recruitment role. Far from sure now after his latter spell at Clyde. He did a great job with them 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) So as I read it , the Sporting Director will identify targets for Doolan , absolutely kidding themselves and our supporters on At our level there is virtually no transfer fees to “ identify “ players and get them to come to Firhill , we’re not Man City or Chelsea IMO at our level the demographic should be Academy players let go by SPFl teams with a hunger to progress in the game We also should be looking at players in the lower divisions who we could develop with good coaching The Academy is absolutely pointless and is a cash drain if we don’t give our young players a pathway to the first team Finally Doolan should always have the final say on any transfers ,give him a template how you want the Club to work , age of player , bringing Academy players through etc because ultimately Dools is going to be accountable not some Sporting Director A Sporting Director is absolutely a waste of a wage. Edited February 4 by jlsarmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: So as I read it , the Sporting Director will identify targets for Doolan , absolutely kidding themselves and our supporters on At our level there is virtually no transfer fees to “ identify “ players and get them to come to Firhill , we’re not Man City or Chelsea IMO at our level the demographic should be Academy players let go by SPFl teams with a hunger to progress in the game We also should be looking at players in the lower divisions who we could develop with good coaching The Academy is absolutely pointless and is a cash cow if we don’t give our young players a pathway to the first team Finally Doolan should always have the final say on any transfers ,give him a template how you want the Club to work , age of player , bringing Academy players through etc because ultimately Dools is going to be accountable not some Sporting Director A Sporting Director is absolutely a waste of a wage. A cash cow is a good thing in business from what I remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, jagfox said: A cash cow is a good thing in business from what I remember? You’re right, predictive text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erty13 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: So as I read it , the Sporting Director will identify targets for Doolan , absolutely kidding themselves and our supporters on At our level there is virtually no transfer fees to “ identify “ players and get them to come to Firhill , we’re not Man City or Chelsea IMO at our level the demographic should be Academy players let go by SPFl teams with a hunger to progress in the game We also should be looking at players in the lower divisions who we could develop with good coaching The Academy is absolutely pointless and is a cash drain if we don’t give our young players a pathway to the first team Finally Doolan should always have the final say on any transfers ,give him a template how you want the Club to work , age of player , bringing Academy players through etc because ultimately Dools is going to be accountable not some Sporting Director A Sporting Director is absolutely a waste of a wage. I think the board have finally woken up and realised that Doolan can not be trusted to build a squad. We pay big wages for senior players and give emerging talent no chance of developing. We carry the cost of an academy but do hot know how to progress players into the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: IMO at our level the demographic should be Academy players let go by SPFl teams with a hunger to progress in the game We also should be looking at players in the lower divisions who we could develop with good coaching Absolutely. Thinking back to building our title winning squad of 2012/13 that year and the previous summer: Sinclair, Muirhead, Balatoni, O’Donnell, Welsh, Lawless all fit that profile… …welcome back sporting director Jackie Mac. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Nope his best signings were ones McCall and McNamara signed - eg Doolan, Erskine, Lawless, O Donnell etc He got the odd gem like Osman and Cerny but so many others were truly appalling likes of awful pogba, storey, McGinty, Azeez, Ecvleston that were beyond dreadful. Even signed Cernys best mate Niteansky without doing proper research and as a complete gamble which While the others like seabourne and Dumbaya had histories of injuries and surprise surprise after a couple of months were completely injured again. Also reeks of complete nepotism to give it to Archie There were many other successes, And Azeez was excellent for us, absolutely instrumental in finishing top 6 (he played every game) and was then sold for a fee. How on earth you can consider that a bad signing I don’t know. Somehow blaming him for not predicting Dumbaya would snap his achilles is a reach. Obviously there were some real duffers (there always are), but this idea that we achieved 5 premiership seasons based on Doolan, Lawless, Erskine and O’Donnell is nonsense. In any case he (re-)signed Erskine. Bringing a player back is still a signing (i.e., Crawford is now a Doolan signing for which he takes responsibility). I don’t understand why we keep putting our most successful manager this century down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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