douglas clark Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 My memory plays me tricks, but we made a lot of money, did we not, from finishing top six? Rather than spending it elsewhere, perhaps making an actual bid for Keown would be worthwhile? If Reading are being daft, then, no. But if we could do a deal, should we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Yes. Tried and tested. If, but only if we could strike a reasonable deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Oh aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 No, we should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Might see if we get an offer and deal for Lindsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I'm sure we will if we are in a position to do so. But let's not start demanding that the club spend money it doesn't have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 It depends on whether Chielini and Ramos have already turned down our offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 My only cause for concern for next season is the inevitable break up of the Keown-Devine-Lindsay partnership. What we don't want to be doing is going into next season's league campaign again with a makeshift centreback pairing (Barton/Devine) or back trio (Devine/Barton/McMullen). Nor do we want to be reliant on fielding defenders who sign in late August. Any successful defence is based on the whole being greater than the sum of the parts so we ideally want our central defenders to be joining us as early as possible. We've no idea about whether Keown will be available next season. The norm in England is for players to be farmed out on loan to a variety of clubs rather than a single one and I'd be very surprised if we could afford to sign the lad. I'm also hoping the very likely transfer of Lindsay doesn't drag on as that would no doubt mean delay in bringing in a suitable left sided replacement, again far from ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think we should make an offer for him. He definitely seems to have enjoyed his time here and he's a versatile player. Especially if Liam does move on I think we want him in among our options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Not going to happen. If Lindsay is worth say a million then so is keown. Even if he is not kept on at his parent club he will get more lucrative offers down south. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted April 12, 2017 Members Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Swap deal? Lindsay for Keown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 It depends on whether Chielini and Ramos have already turned down our offers Their both too old for our potential player profile! Remember we're looking for CLnsicess circa 2030? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCjag Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 A quick look at Reading's wiki page reveals that they have no less than six young defenders out on loan. Amongst them Zak Jules at Motherwell, Jake Cooper at Millwall and Dominic Hyam at Aldershot. All three are younger than Keown and quite a bit taller. They always say you can't teach tall. At 22, if he was going to make it at reading you would think that he'd have made the breakthrough by now. I think we've got a shot. Maybe we can sneak him out under the radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Spoke to keowns old man at parkhead, Niall has had two knee ops so his progress was stalled , probably why he hasn't made breakthrough yet down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Swap deal? Lindsay for Keown? Absolutely not. Lindsay is perhaps the best centre back we have ever had, or at least since Jackie Campbell. I want us to retain the core of our defense, if at all possible. Someone else mentioned money. We have some money, perhaps not just yet, but even a top six, bottom place, gives you guaranteed income. As does home gates against the crap teams in Glasgow. We are not, exactly, poor these days. (Frankly, I never, ever thought I would say that with a straight face ;-)) I am not suggesting we offer the house for the guy. I am suggesting we make a reasonable bid and see what happens. Correct me if I am wrong, but did we not buy the amazing Adam Barton? Edited April 13, 2017 by douglas clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Absolutely not. Lindsay is perhaps the best centre back we have ever had, or at least since Jackie Campbell. I want us to retain the core of our defense, if at all possible. Someone else mentioned money. We have some money, perhaps not just yet, but even a top six, bottom place, gives you guaranteed income. As does home gates against the crap teams in Glasgow. We are not, exactly, poor these days. (Frankly, I never, ever thought I would say that with a straight face ;-)) I am not suggesting we offer the house for the guy. I am suggesting we make a reasonable bid and see what happens. Correct me if I am wrong, but did we not buy the amazing Adam Barton? We did buy Barton. How much? No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 We did pay an undisclosed fee for Adam Barton. Good investment it has been too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 We did buy Barton. How much? No idea. rumour is £40k - but rumour is the key word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) So, we do buy players. And we do have a bit of money coming our way. Keeping our entire defence, from Cherny to Barton ought to be a priority. May be tricky, but we should see what the club can do. Lindsay should be a priority retention. Just saying. our hero's options are more likely realistically at the PSG / Barcelona level than even English Premiership level. That is how good I think he, potentialy, is. Hopefully a year or so off before the inevitable sale? Edited April 13, 2017 by douglas clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 We did pay an undisclosed fee for Adam Barton. Good investment it has been too Absolutely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 How much do people think we should be offering for him, considering he has been at Reading since he was 16, has been capped at under 21 level, and still has a year left on his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 We should keep him if we can but we should only pay what we can afford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 I would like to think if we offered a quarter of what we will get for Liam then that might be enough to procur his signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 I would like to think if we offered a quarter of what we will get for Liam then that might be enough to procure his signature. I would like to think that as well. Unfortunately I don't. Besides I doubt very much, even if Reading were willing to sell Keown, we could offer a suitable wage on top of what we'd have to match on his current contract. Archie gambled on a first time loanee and the gamble has certainly paid off. Victims of our own success. The downside to that probably means that clubs that can offer much better terms will have been alerted should Keown become available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Aren't you all assuming that he'd want to sign - permanently - for us? His domestic life may well determine which area of the country he wants or needs to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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