sandy Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Elliot for captain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of spain Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, sandy said: Elliot for captain The guy is a ridiculously limited football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) But he puts in a shift and encourages others. We need a vocal leader on the park. Edited May 25, 2018 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, sandy said: But he puts in a shift and encourages others. We need a vocal leader on the park. With every respect, Christie Elliott is not that man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcapmilkdrinker Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: With every respect, Christie Elliott is not that man. And also with the greatest respect, makes too many dumb decisions on the pitch to be considered as a captaincy candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 The 3 players up for transfer are the last players we paid for,are we just trying to get some money back for them.If nobody is willing to pay money what happens.If we still have them at the beginning of the season will this impact on who bring in as we wont know what our requirements are and also what we have to spend budget wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Over the moon with that list. Don't shed a tear for a single one if them leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 I'd have kept Booth if he wanted to stay, but I suspect he's already sorted; otherwise I'm totally happy with the out-the-door list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_adam Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Personally agree with everyone released and kept. first point of call I’d hope is Archie brings in Thomas O’Ware in defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Only ones I'm sorry to see go are Booth and Lawless, but if they have offers from Premiership clubs you can't blame them. Bannigan, I would let go in August regardless. I would like to keep Keown, he seemed injury plagued last season. I would like to keep Storey( mainly because I have some kind of man love for him) . The rest of the squad seems ok. As we already knew, there is a big rebuilding job on. Which begs the question. Are those players staying still on the same salary as before? I ask that because it has been stated that we have the same budget. If So, is it a squad that will be fairly tight on a good salary or are we assembling a fairly big squad on smaller pay packets? Interesting times ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: Only ones I'm sorry to see go are Booth and Lawless, but if they have offers from Premiership clubs you can't blame them. Bannigan, I would let go in August regardless. I would like to keep Keown, he seemed injury plagued last season. I would like to keep Storey( mainly because I have some kind of man love for him) . The rest of the squad seems ok. As we already knew, there is a big rebuilding job on. Which begs the question. Are those players staying still on the same salary as before? I ask that because it has been stated that we have the same budget. If So, is it a squad that will be fairly tight on a good salary or are we assembling a fairly big squad on smaller pay packets? Interesting times ahead. What is it you see as the difference between Bannigan and Keown. We know that Bannigan has had an injury that is proving troublesome to clear up. Keown got injured during his pre season at Reading and never looked like he had recovered last season. Would we not be taking a chance on his fitness again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 As I said we can all argue about players here and there but overall it’s the right move.....we don’t know all the details and what the players said they wanted .....let’s hope we get some cash in for the ones we are transferring and wish the rest well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted May 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, partickthedog said: Just say we had to play a game tomorrow and did not want to rely on the transfer listed players. Looks like we would have to go with the following (in 4-2-3-1 formation): Jamie Sneddon Christie Elliott Tomas Cerny Douglas Clark James Penrice Andrew McCarthy Stuart Bannigan Blair Spittal Callum Wilson Chris Erskine Kris Doolan Apart from the makeshift central defence of Tomas Cerny and Douglas Clark, that has the glimmer of a decent team. Good to watch and would play the Thistle Way. Add Arnold Clark to drive on the left. Ken Clarke would be a solid right winger. Signing Arthur C Clarke in January could bring about a fairytale end to the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) Surely we also need Clark Kent, BB? Edited May 26, 2018 by sandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: What is it you see as the difference between Bannigan and Keown. We know that Bannigan has had an injury that is proving troublesome to clear up. Keown got injured during his pre season at Reading and never looked like he had recovered last season. Would we not be taking a chance on his fitness again ? The difference being that Bannigan has hardly been seen in the last two years. Keown played some games last season and using the same yardstick as Bannigan and Fraser we could see if he can get fit during the close season and play next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: What is it you see as the difference between Bannigan and Keown. We know that Bannigan has had an injury that is proving troublesome to clear up. Keown got injured during his pre season at Reading and never looked like he had recovered last season. Would we not be taking a chance on his fitness again ? Stuart Bannigan had a serious cruciate knee injury , we know if he gets back to any sort of level which we all know he can play at he will be a great asset to the team, and has the ability to be the focal point of the team .He's now back training again , so fingers crossed. Niall Keown , as far as I know didn't have any major injuries but missing the last years pre season training obviously hindered him and he never really got back to full speed . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 I would love to see Bannigan back. If there was such a thing as a thistle way of playing, I think it was built around him. His injury may well have been when we lost that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, sandy said: Surely we also need Clark Kent, BB? Dave Clark to keep the pace, and we might soon be feeling glad all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted May 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Dave Clark to keep the pace, and we might soon be feeling glad all over. Stop it, Jagger. I'm in pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of spain Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, allyo said: I would love to see Bannigan back. If there was such a thing as a thistle way of playing, I think it was built around him. His injury may well have been when we lost that. Think of Ryan Edwards attempt at replacing Bannigan and you really appreciate how good he was pre injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco77 Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Definitely the clear out needed. Not up for bringing back x,y & z from previous campaigns. Fresh faces needed to try and install a team that fights for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigjag Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 I'm sorry and I genuinely hope I'm proved wrong, but if you seriously believe that with Archie's transfer history he can rebuild a team over a few weeks that will challenge for the title then I'm afraid you are letting your heart rule your head. His signing history is pretty dire I'd say. Why didn't he trust Penrice over the last portion of the season instead of shoe horning Christie in there? Why did it take him the vast majority of the season to finally start playing Macarthy in midfield when everyone and his dug could see he was a better option than the players he was starting? Ironically he has now decided to keep both of them. His attacking signings have been , to put it mildly disappointing. Take Dools and Erskines goals out over the last 2 seasons and the stats are pretty dire. I'd say his scouting network and ability to spot a gem for reasonable or no money in the lower leagues is pretty dire. He is not going to have the luxury of blooding young players because it's pretty clear the board have given him one season plus he's not exactly known for taking risks. Add to this his teams notorious slow stars to the season with fairly settled teams and for me it's the recipe for scraping in to the play offs at best. Anyway I'm away to change my wet knickers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, marco77 said: Definitely the clear out needed. Not up for bringing back x,y & z from previous campaigns. Fresh faces needed to try and install a team that fights for each other. I've nobody really in mind but if x,y or z had the necessary fight in him and is deemed to be a team player then I don't see a problem. Provided of course any player returning was only a back up/squad player. Other than that it's not just a case of fresh faces. The bulk of the players signed should ideally have most of their career ahead of them. That's been our policy for a while now. There's been nothing wrong with the policy just latterly the actual selection. I do tho' think we need a Shug Murray type of signing. None of the senior players retained are exactly what you could call a man of steel. Need someone like Murray around the squad. He may not play every week but would still be influential. The two things I feel that have contributed to our present state is the lack of a Lambie style "nutter" and the average age creeping up. The latter is reflected by our lack of pace. The former by our nervousness and inability to see games out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, jigjag said: I'm sorry and I genuinely hope I'm proved wrong, but if you seriously believe that with Archie's transfer history he can rebuild a team over a few weeks that will challenge for the title then I'm afraid you are letting your heart rule your head. His signing history is pretty dire I'd say. Why didn't he trust Penrice over the last portion of the season instead of shoe horning Christie in there? Why did it take him the vast majority of the season to finally start playing Macarthy in midfield when everyone and his dug could see he was a better option than the players he was starting? Ironically he has now decided to keep both of them. His attacking signings have been , to put it mildly disappointing. Take Dools and Erskines goals out over the last 2 seasons and the stats are pretty dire. I'd say his scouting network and ability to spot a gem for reasonable or no money in the lower leagues is pretty dire. He is not going to have the luxury of blooding young players because it's pretty clear the board have given him one season plus he's not exactly known for taking risks. Add to this his teams notorious slow stars to the season with fairly settled teams and for me it's the recipe for scraping in to the play offs at best. Anyway I'm away to change my wet knickers. Agree with every word you saved me a lot of time and thought..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 I see scully not happy .... i would imagine we will have a smaller squad this season as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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