lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, sandy said: There is a chance that the Hearts proposal will be rejected today. This will result in us dropping into a Division when many clubs won’t be able to survive without crowds. This nightmare scenario could see our 2020/21 season mothballed. I wonder whether such an outcome would make legal action more likely, and more importantly increase the possibility of a successful outcome. By "successful" I mean financially in terms of compo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I wonder whether such an outcome would make legal action more likely, and more importantly increase the possibility of a successful outcome. By "successful" I mean financially in terms of compo. Yes, it probably would. But I expect we’d all rather see the Jags playing than having to rely on a legal challenge to extract some compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thru thin and thin Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Would it not be the case that if member clubs meet the criteria to continue next season,Hearts, Thistle & Falkirk. Then the SPFL are duty bound to find the clubs fixtures to play? Also, if member clubs decide, for whatever reason, not to participate in completing a fixture list. Then they should be expelled, or resign from the organisation? Therfore, the SPFL should establish the number of clubs who meet the criteria, and organise the Leagues accordingly. (No voting required!) Thistle are one of only 6 clubs out of 42 who operated at a profit according to the last available financial results! If forced to cease conducting business by a voting process, would this not be in breach of Restrictive Trade laws! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policemans whistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I wonder whether such an outcome would make legal action more likely, and more importantly increase the possibility of a successful outcome. By "successful" I mean financially in terms of compo. Remember compo would have to be paid by the SPFL i.e the clubs. I think Hearts thought that taking legal action, would sway the clubs to accept re construction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, thru thin and thin said: Would it not be the case that if member clubs meet the criteria to continue next season,Hearts, Thistle & Falkirk. Then the SPFL are duty bound to find the clubs fixtures to play? Also, if member clubs decide, for whatever reason, not to participate in completing a fixture list. Then they should be expelled, or resign from the organisation? Therfore, the SPFL should establish the number of clubs who meet the criteria, and organise the Leagues accordingly. (No voting required!) Thistle are one of only 6 clubs out of 42 who operated at a profit according to the last available financial results! If forced to cease conducting business by a voting process, would this not be in breach of Restrictive Trade laws! I'd imagine that everything in terms of fixture draws (like they really happen), would continue as normal for all of the Leagues. Any teams that could not fulfil their fixtures would be suspended from the league indefinitely and fined heavily. The impact to those teams and the ones that could play, will be severe. As the above seems quite likely IMO, the SPFL should get a grip and do something to avoid this terminal situation, that does not include a stupid vote with people that can't see further than their noses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, CotterJag said: I'd imagine that everything in terms of fixture draws (like they really happen), would continue as normal for all of the Leagues. Any teams that could not fulfil their fixtures would be suspended from the league indefinitely and fined heavily. The impact to those teams and the ones that could play, will be severe. As the above seems quite likely IMO, the SPFL should get a grip and do something to avoid this terminal situation, that does not include a stupid vote with people that can't see further than their noses. Sadly at a time when kindness & altruism have emerged across our communities, many Clubs have behaved (or voted) in a way that demonstrates self-interest. The Scottish game is rank right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 hours ago, sandy said: There is a chance that the Hearts proposal will be rejected today. This will result in us dropping into a Division when many clubs won’t be able to survive without crowds. This nightmare scenario could see our 2020/21 season mothballed. I really hope this is not the outcome. Reports Championship may be mothballed too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 The SPFL are to discuss Hearts league reconstruction proposal on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 interesting update from Norway .... But the Norwegian public health authority has published a report with a striking conclusion: the virus was never spreading as fast as had been feared and was already on the way out when lockdown was ordered. ‘It looks as if the effective reproduction rate had already dropped to around 1.1 when the most comprehensive measures were implemented on 12 March, and that there would not be much to push it down below 1… We have seen in retrospect that the infection was on its way down.’ Here’s the graph, with the R-number on the right-hand scale: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, javeajag said: interesting update from Norway .... But the Norwegian public health authority has published a report with a striking conclusion: the virus was never spreading as fast as had been feared and was already on the way out when lockdown was ordered. ‘It looks as if the effective reproduction rate had already dropped to around 1.1 when the most comprehensive measures were implemented on 12 March, and that there would not be much to push it down below 1… We have seen in retrospect that the infection was on its way down.’ Here’s the graph, with the R-number on the right-hand scale: This is a very interesting statement. And gives great hope. Let’s hope this means what I think it does regarding the future of the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, jaf said: This is a very interesting statement. And gives great hope. Let’s hope this means what I think it does regarding the future of the virus. Still 400+ deaths recorded in U.K. yesterday. That’s more than previous 3 days combined I think. Not sure if we have this under control just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, jaf said: This is a very interesting statement. And gives great hope. Let’s hope this means what I think it does regarding the future of the virus. Yes....with WHO saying they don’t think there will be a second wave and the virus under control in those countries who have lifted lockdown football maybe on the agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Still 400+ deaths recorded in U.K. yesterday. That’s more than previous 3 days combined I think. Not sure if we have this under control just yet. We are behind other countries ....no deaths in Ireland yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Still 400+ deaths recorded in U.K. yesterday. That’s more than previous 3 days combined I think. Not sure if we have this under control just yet. Monday was a public holiday in England, so the figures for the last 3 days will be low and today’s high. Let’s see where we are tomorrow Daily new infection rate Is still several thousand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, javeajag said: interesting update from Norway .... But the Norwegian public health authority has published a report with a striking conclusion: the virus was never spreading as fast as had been feared and was already on the way out when lockdown was ordered. ‘It looks as if the effective reproduction rate had already dropped to around 1.1 when the most comprehensive measures were implemented on 12 March, and that there would not be much to push it down below 1… We have seen in retrospect that the infection was on its way down.’ Here’s the graph, with the R-number on the right-hand scale: Norway has also announced the removal of the 1meter distance rule for schools and kindergartens from Monday, rest of society to follow within 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, jaf said: This is a very interesting statement. And gives great hope. Let’s hope this means what I think it does regarding the future of the virus. The Ro rate has been under 1 since March 3rd according to the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Still 400+ deaths recorded in U.K. yesterday. That’s more than previous 3 days combined I think. Not sure if we have this under control just yet. As I’ve stated previously I know personally of 3 families who are appealing the cause of death for their relatives being classed as COVID, when this was definitely not the main contributor to the deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: As I’ve stated previously I know personally of 3 families who are appealing the cause of death for their relatives being classed as COVID, when this was definitely not the main contributor to the deaths. What do they get if they win the appeal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Norway has also announced the removal of the 1meter distance rule for schools and kindergartens from Monday, rest of society to follow within 2 weeks Yep we will go there as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 October for competitive football I reckon. The virus is on the way out and a second wave is unlikely. Don’t know what our crowd sizes will be like as it appears a sizeable percentage of the population have been terrorised and brainwashed into thinking that if they step outside their home they will definitely catch the virus and definitely die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander livingstone Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: Yes....with WHO saying they don’t think there will be a second wave and the virus under control in those countries who have lifted lockdown football maybe on the agenda Not what was said by a WHO official as quoted in the I paper this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, alexander livingstone said: Not what was said by a WHO official as quoted in the I paper this morning The press have been stirring up fear through this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironfist Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: As I’ve stated previously I know personally of 3 families who are appealing the cause of death for their relatives being classed as COVID, when this was definitely not the main contributor to the deaths. Mate, I sympathise with your friends. I do think though that the experience you have had in Norway is very different to what has happened in the UK. I would question too whether relatives are in a better position than a medical professional when it comes to deciding upon a cause of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, alexander livingstone said: Not what was said by a WHO official as quoted in the I paper this morning I posted a tweet from Prof Karl Sikora quoting the WHO ......meanwhile Switzerland lifted lockdown on May 11 no increase in cases and now.... Switzerland is relaxing most of its remaining coronavirus restrictions on public life: •Starting May 30, gatherings of up to 30 people will be allowed. •From June 6, tourist sites and public spaces can reopen and •Gatherings of up to 300 people will be permitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, ironfist said: Mate, I sympathise with your friends. I do think though that the experience you have had in Norway is very different to what has happened in the UK. I would question too whether relatives are in a better position than a medical professional when it comes to deciding upon a cause of death. 2 were terminally ill. No postmortem was carried out after a COVID test showed positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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