Bobbyhouston Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 He’s not got a bloody clue what’s happening and his weekly embarrassing interviews add to his clueless management of our club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1876 Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 When is his contract up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted February 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, 1876 said: When is his contract up Should have been at 17.00 hrs tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestreets Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 who do you suggest to replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 As I have posted on another thread he should walk now, to get beat at Firhill by the 2 teams at the bottom of the league in the manner which we did is unextible.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, thestreets said: who do you suggest to replace him? Not Archibald, Danny Lennon or Brian Graham anyway. Preferably see someone with no Thistle connection. However I would fully expect Gerry Britton to bring in a thistle pal like them or Jim Duffy Not Doolan either - he’s just in the door though if things go well a few years then hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, 1876 said: When is his contract up It is a rolling contract, probably 1 year. Most managers are on rolling contracts. So no matter how long we leave it, it will always cost 1 year wages. Unless he has a performance clause in the contract. If no clause and we can’t afford it or can’t negotiate a deal, then he has a job for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 How's the cargo lasting tonight Bobby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 For those calling for McCall to go right now who are you suggesting would do a better job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 Don't remember his name but the guy at Darval could be worth a shot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 9 hours ago, dibble said: For those calling for McCall to go right now who are you suggesting would do a better job You tell me who is interested and what their contract demands are and I’ll tell you who I would pick. Are you suggesting that until we have a candidate who everyone agrees on then McCall has a job for life ? The fact is that McCall’s position is becoming untenable. Yes there is a risk and uncertainty with any new manager, but that should not be a reason for keeping the current failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 It’s not a question of who could do a better job now, change is necessary. We’re stale, going nowhere. Slept on it & more convinced today that I was at the final whistle yesterday. Needs to go - that squad is perhaps the best in the league (on paper) and we’re utterly inept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Gums Murphy Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 Approach Kevin Thomson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Bleeding Gums Murphy said: Approach Kevin Thomson “…with caution.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 13 hours ago, dibble said: For those calling for McCall to go right now who are you suggesting would do a better job I guess by that you're meaning who's affordable who's either available or wouldn't cost much to buy out his contract? A good question and for me nobody immediately springs to mind. One reason I'm asking if McCall is definitely on a rolling contract? Another unknown is whether his contract contains a minimum attainment clause. Could be a situation or two where it would be a financial folly to terminate just now. Other unknowns are the willingness and/or ability of our present interim Board to terminate and appoint managers. They've enough on their plate as it is. I guess there's more to it than the fact McCall's time should be up. As a matter of interest, dibble, would you have a name in mind yourself re an immediate successor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 I've no idea what McCall's contract looks like, but if it is a 12 month rolling one as has been suggested, then it might mean that (a) he can be paid on a monthly basis for that period, and (b) there might be a clause that if he finds a new job within the 12 months the payments are reduced or ended. If the Board decides on a change of manager, TJF montly income could possibly be used to fund that if other claims on it are deemed to be less important. TJF may find that if it is understood by fans that their income is being used in that way, membership might increase. The good news is that we don't have to rush into appointing a new manager, and we have until the end of the season to choose one. As I have said already, I would prefer a complete outsider to Scottish football, and avoid ex-Jags and the other Scottish managers that circulate between Scottish clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, eljaggo said: I've no idea what McCall's contract looks like, but if it is a 12 month rolling one as has been suggested, then it might mean that (a) he can be paid on a monthly basis for that period, and (b) there might be a clause that if he finds a new job within the 12 months the payments are reduced or ended. If the Board decides on a change of manager, TJF montly income could possibly be used to fund that if other claims on it are deemed to be less important. TJF may find that if it is understood by fans that their income is being used in that way, membership might increase. The good news is that we don't have to rush into appointing a new manager, and we have until the end of the season to choose one. As I have said already, I would prefer a complete outsider to Scottish football, and avoid ex-Jags and the other Scottish managers that circulate between Scottish clubs. Spit on. Ayr went down south for Lee Bullen and they are way ahead of where most people thought they'd be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 21 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: How's the cargo lasting tonight Bobby? it was epic , just woke up at 4 the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 20 hours ago, dibble said: For those calling for McCall to go right now who are you suggesting would do a better job West End luvey backing McCall oh there’s a surprise NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 20 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: Don't remember his name but the guy at Darval could be worth a shot.. His past won’t get him ANY gig other than level he’s at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 22 hours ago, thestreets said: who do you suggest to replace him? John Hughes with Kevin Thomson assistant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 23 hours ago, thestreets said: who do you suggest to replace him? Jim Goodwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Spit on. Ayr went down south for Lee Bullen and they are way ahead of where most people thought they'd be. Gary Caldwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfirejkl Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Ian Cathro he is still young! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Cfirejkl said: Ian Cathro he is still young! Probably the epitome of a great coach but poor manager. I know from a good friend that he was held in very high regard at Wolves. Wouldn't be surprised if he can demand a wage higher than any manager in Scotland bar the OF. Unearthing a coach with his potential imo is the way to go. Obviously we also need a manager. The latter to deal with the non coaching side and head up some sort of scouting network. I wouldn't rule McCall out of that position, if not by choice then down to financial restrictions. That certainly doesn't mean that the manager gets to select the head coach. I've nothing to back up my theory that a lot of decent young coaches are lost to the game as they cannot hack the management side of things. It does tho' stand to reason that a coach who was still a player recently will struggle with the man management side of things. Dealing with players' contracts won't necessarily come naturally, particularly if he's left that side of things up to his agent. I know from personal experience when I became a manager the hardest part of my job was dealing with those subordinate to me. One of the advantages of this Manager/Head Coach set up is in continuity. If one leaves we don't go back to square one. But by far the biggest advantage is avoiding the good manager/poor coach or poor manager/good coach syndrome we're all to familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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