laukat Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 I'm not sure there's an great fall out with Mitchell or his agent. Whilst Sneddon has his faults I don't think we are talking a massive upgrade if Mitchell was number 1. Mitchell was signed on a 2 year deal at the time where the JLow clown show was throwing money at promotion so chances are he's on a decent wage or a contract that has appearance payments. Sneddon got a 1 year extension after the playoffs when money was tight so chances are Sneddon is on significantly less than Mitchell. When you add that Mitchell will shortly be 34 years old he's not someone who was likely to be part of the managers plans for next season. So maybe best for both parties that Mitchell leaves either on loan so we get part of his wages covered and he gets a chance to secure a contract at another club or a mutual termination is agreed so we release wages and he gets a chance to restart somewhere else. Perhaps Doolan is just taking the pragmatic decision that he needs the budget to address other parts of the squad and in signing Stewart he has reasonable cover to summer and then he can decide if he keeps either of Sneddon, Stewart or decides to go for a proper number 1 with McCready as low cost backup? I would like to think that with Stewart on board that Sneddon is more likely to be dropped and have to compete for number 1 otherwise we would have been better just going with McCready as cover and getting an emergency loan if either got a serious injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, laukat said: I'm not sure there's an great fall out with Mitchell or his agent. Whilst Sneddon has his faults I don't think we are talking a massive upgrade if Mitchell was number 1. Mitchell was signed on a 2 year deal at the time where the JLow clown show was throwing money at promotion so chances are he's on a decent wage or a contract that has appearance payments. Sneddon got a 1 year extension after the playoffs when money was tight so chances are Sneddon is on significantly less than Mitchell. When you add that Mitchell will shortly be 34 years old he's not someone who was likely to be part of the managers plans for next season. So maybe best for both parties that Mitchell leaves either on loan so we get part of his wages covered and he gets a chance to secure a contract at another club or a mutual termination is agreed so we release wages and he gets a chance to restart somewhere else. Perhaps Doolan is just taking the pragmatic decision that he needs the budget to address other parts of the squad and in signing Stewart he has reasonable cover to summer and then he can decide if he keeps either of Sneddon, Stewart or decides to go for a proper number 1 with McCready as low cost backup? I would like to think that with Stewart on board that Sneddon is more likely to be dropped and have to compete for number 1 otherwise we would have been better just going with McCready as cover and getting an emergency loan if either got a serious injury. Given Sneddon has been here for over 6 years I doubt very much he is on pennies at all. Likely on a very decent wage. Graham and Bannigan got contracts extensions when money was allegedly tight- do you think they are on pennies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Given Sneddon has been here for over 6 years I doubt very much he is on pennies at all. Likely on a very decent wage. Graham and Bannigan got contracts extensions when money was allegedly tight- do you think they are on pennies? It was well publicised last summer that Sneddon had been given a 1 time take it or leave it 1 year contract extension in the immediate aftermath of our financial situation. Lawless extended in November post external investment. Graham extended original after a transfer bid from Ayr and then again just recently. So Graham and Lawless will not be on pennies. Sneddon will be be the least well paid of those and I would expect him to be cheaper than Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, laukat said: It was well publicised last summer that Sneddon had been given a 1 time take it or leave it 1 year contract extension in the immediate aftermath of our financial situation. Lawless extended in November post external investment. Graham extended original after a transfer bid from Ayr and then again just recently. So Graham and Lawless will not be on pennies. Sneddon will be be the least well paid of those and I would expect him to be cheaper than Mitchell. Sneddon was offered a 1 year deal yes. He was offered same time as Bannigan. Do you think Bannigan is on pennies? Sneddon has been here 6 years do you think he is on pennies? Your comment about take it or leave it contract makes little sense as pretty much every player is offered a contract and will either take it or leave it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Just now, Third Lanark said: Sneddon was offered a 1 year deal yes. He was offered same time as Bannigan. Do you think Bannigan is on pennies? Sneddon has been here 6 years do you think he is on pennies? Your comment about take it or leave it contract makes little sense as pretty much every player is offered a contract and will either take it or leave it Bannigan was given a 2 year extension , Sneddon was given a 1 year extension so not really comparing like for like, however given Bannigan has been here for a lot longer than Sneddon and Graham and Lawless does that make him the best paid player in the team? If not does then your point about Sneddon being here 6 years makes no impact on the wage he earns. My point isn't and never has been is Jamie Sneddon on pennies. My point was he is probably significantly cheaper than Mitchell. If you think Sneddon is on close to or the same as Mitchell fair play but I'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, laukat said: Bannigan was given a 2 year extension , Sneddon was given a 1 year extension so not really comparing like for like, however given Bannigan has been here for a lot longer than Sneddon and Graham and Lawless does that make him the best paid player in the team? If not does then your point about Sneddon being here 6 years makes no impact on the wage he earns. My point isn't and never has been is Jamie Sneddon on pennies. My point was he is probably significantly cheaper than Mitchell. If you think Sneddon is on close to or the same as Mitchell fair play but I'd be surprised. Yeah I think Sneddon will be on same as Mitchell- both are considered to be number ones and due to his length of service I think will be the same. I do agree with you he will be on less than Bannigan, Graham and Lawless but as I say think he will be on same as Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Well, from Doolan's pre-match interview it looks like Mitchell's recent absence is due to some kind of back injury which might need considerable time to heal; hence the signing of Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 More rumours: Dundee United are leading the race to sign talented Queen’s Park skipper Dom Thomas. The 27-year-old has been a bright light for struggling Spiders and pitched in with a vital goal in Friday’s 2-1 win over Dunfermline. That’s alerted a host of Championship rivals and sparked a bidding war to land the former Scotland Under-21 star. Title favourites Dundee United look the winger’s most likely destination but league leaders Raith Rovers and Partick Thistle are also interested. It’s understood that all three clubs have contacted Queen’s Park and are willing to pay a fee for the winger. Spiders will wait for the best offer but it’s understood that Thomas would prefer a move to the Tannadice outfit. Tangerines boss Jim Goodwin is eager to bolster his side’s attack this month and views Thomas – who had spells at Motherwell, Kilmarnock and the Pars – as key to United’s bid to bounce straight back up to the Premiership. Jags boss Kris Doolan is also desperate to add more firepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 (edited) Apparently/ allegedly DU are not interested in Thomas, just us and RR.. Maybe if we offered him a whistle we could seal the deal Edited January 7 by JAG1970 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Don Thomas is a very good player and the wheels on the QP bus are def falling off. Maybe they progressed too quickly? Just don't think we can pay any transfer fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Thomas would be a great signing for us, exactly what we need. A real threat from distance too. Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Don Thomas is a very good player and the wheels on the QP bus are def falling off. Maybe they progressed too quickly? Just don't think we can pay any transfer fees. I’m hoping him being Glasgow based would give us an advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 23 minutes ago, Gary Peebles Tackle said: Thomas would be a great signing for us, exactly what we need. A real threat from distance too. Fingers crossed! If we signed him, he could change his name to John and be the third leg of our attack. Of course, come end of season we could offer him an extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I've often thought Thomas would be a great addition. Having said that, recruiting a number 10 when we have McIntory, Alston, Robinson and Lyon picking up a wage feels like overkill. I'd be happier if we were trimming the squad in that area before recruiting there, or sticking with what we have. If he's signed for the wing, I'd again question the need when we have Lawless and Fitzy who are both better than him imo (though, to reiterate, I do rate him highly). Thomas feels like the right answer to the wrong question. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Financially and for the sake of his career I suspect we might not be his first choice. He looks a fine player and Queens will certainly miss him should he move elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, MarciaBlaine said: I've often thought Thomas would be a great addition. Having said that, recruiting a number 10 when we have McIntory, Alston, Robinson and Lyon picking up a wage feels like overkill. I'd be happier if we were trimming the squad in that area before recruiting there, or sticking with what we have. If he's signed for the wing, I'd again question the need when we have Lawless and Fitzy who are both better than him imo (though, to reiterate, I do rate him highly). Thomas feels like the right answer to the wrong question. Have to agree that he is a great player and one that I would love to see in a Thistle shirt. My concern is that it would use up resources when we have far more urgent priorities to address. We have already wasted some of them on a 4th keeper. If there is some way we can land him (and Paton) in the summer I’d be very happy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, JeanieD said: Financially and for the sake of his career I suspect we might not be his first choice. He looks a fine player and Queens will certainly miss him should he move elsewhere It’s been reported today that Dundee United are not pursuing Thomas. Of course who knows if there’s truth in whether we are linked or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Even if we have the dosh Thomas is probably a year or so too old for us to be forking out much on transfer/signing on fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, MarciaBlaine said: I've often thought Thomas would be a great addition. Having said that, recruiting a number 10 when we have McIntory, Alston, Robinson and Lyon picking up a wage feels like overkill. I'd be happier if we were trimming the squad in that area before recruiting there, or sticking with what we have. If he's signed for the wing, I'd again question the need when we have Lawless and Fitzy who are both better than him imo (though, to reiterate, I do rate him highly). Thomas feels like the right answer to the wrong question. Those 3 are decent players but Thomas or for that matter Turner would be an upgrade on the 3 of them to be honest. 2 of them are also contracted only till the end of the season as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: Have to agree that he is a great player and one that I would love to see in a Thistle shirt. My concern is that it would use up resources when we have far more urgent priorities to address. We have already wasted some of them on a 4th keeper. If there is some way we can land him (and Paton) in the summer I’d be very happy As said Thomas would be an upgrade on what we have. Alston, McInroy, Lyon and Robinson are all decent but they are not the same quality as Don Thomas. 2 could be away in summer. Can we guarantee Robinson will be injury free when he has so far not proven to be and Lyon has still a bit to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 49 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Those 3 are decent players but Thomas or for that matter Turner would be an upgrade on the 3 of them to be honest. 2 of them are also contracted only till the end of the season as well Yeah I agree but as @Dick Dastardly says I'm quibbling based on a question of allocating resources rather than disliking him as a player. I've seen him play better than 3 of the 4 potential number 10s I mentioned in my post, the exception being Robinson - though that was for Killie, not us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I'd take him in a heartbeat. Could make a significant difference, either challenging for the title ( unlikely still ) or the playoffs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 We only have 9 midfielders ….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Don Thomas is a fine football player at our level, but we'd need to offload at least one of Alston/McInroy/Robinson this month for his arrival to make any sense. I'd take him on a PCA for next season without question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, javeajag said: We only have 9 midfielders ….. But none are as good as Thomas. Do we actually have 9 or is that exaggeration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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