Duke Gekantawa Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, eljaggo said: Oor Gary is doing well at Exeter. What relevance has that to the clear fact he was a disaster with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 It was relevant to Lenziejag's post, your grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 4 hours ago, eljaggo said: Why is there an assumption among posters that we would have to recruit any manager from the Scotland gene pool? Maybe if we do need a new manager, we should go for someone from further afield, with new ideas and a different perspective in terms of potential players. The Club needs a re-set in its thinking. I tend to look at the Scottish or Scottish based players and managers as I would assume the wages we offer isn't enough to entice those outside to relocate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 10 minutes ago, eljaggo said: It was relevant to Lenziejag's post, your grace. The relevance is that a manager that does well in England or elsewhere doesn’t mean they will do well in Scotland. “Oor Gary” is a case in point. He had previously been successful in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Our most sucessful recent managerial appointments (McNamara and Archibald) were appointments direct from the playing staff. I'd be happy to give Graham a go if it comes to it (although of course, I fully acknowledge it could go the way of Britton/Whyte instead). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Duke Gekantawa said: What relevance has that to the clear fact he was a disaster with us? It may shine a spotlight on the club that we have had bad managers than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 50 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: It may shine a spotlight on the club that we have had bad managers than good. Every club bar none has had managers who were bad, good or indifferent. Ex player, legend or not. Picking a manager is not an exact science. Witness Aberdeen for example....or Hearts.....or indeed Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Every club bar none has had managers who were bad, good or indifferent. Ex player, legend or not. Picking a manager is not an exact science. Witness Aberdeen for example....or Hearts.....or indeed Falkirk. Very true! But Aberdeen, Hearts and Falkirk have at least got to cup finals, won trophies and played in Europe more recently than us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: It may shine a spotlight on the club that we have had bad managers than good. But the only common denominator over that period is the club itself. Over that time there has been various different boards, chairpeople, ownership structures, chief execs etc.. I'm not sure what use such a spotlight is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 22 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Our most sucessful recent managerial appointments (McNamara and Archibald) were appointments direct from the playing staff. I'd be happy to give Graham a go if it comes to it (although of course, I fully acknowledge it could go the way of Britton/Whyte instead). Throwing team mates under the bus with his Herald interview won’t go down well if he’s appointed was in the Woody before game on Saturday and a follower of the woman’s team suggested he’s not liked by both players and there family due to his attitude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 On 10/15/2024 at 1:09 PM, Lenziejag said: The relevance is that a manager that does well in England or elsewhere doesn’t mean they will do well in Scotland. “Oor Gary” is a case in point. He had previously been successful in England. So we should just keep appointing ex Players as Managers ? - obviously Graham is getting the Job if Dools is sacked - it wont be a straight swap - it will be Temporary - then eventually a full time post Caldwell didn't work - but on the surface he had a decent CV - and good contacts - which in Football are key requirements - to dismiss looking further afield- due to Caldwell failing is a nonsense But the Board will play "safe" use managing the Woman's Team as justification - which is ridiculous as managing an Amateur Team- is hardly Comparison to the Championship - but TJF will Sign it off - so its a done deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 On 10/14/2024 at 4:59 PM, lady-isobel-barnett said: How much pressure is on McCabe on Saturday? More or less than on Doolan? Good question. Defeat for either team could spell the end but I don’t think Doolan can survive another boring draw, but McCabe would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 What club-record did we set vs. Falkirk? All is revealed in this week's 'Stats Watch'... also, a brand new 'Gallery' module is introduced as the previous slideshow module just suddenly stopped working, a real pain. 100 photos to a page to try and keep up with Donald Wilson's rapid trigger-finger... Thistle 1 Falkirk 1 → Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: So we should just keep appointing ex Players as Managers ? - obviously Graham is getting the Job if Dools is sacked - it wont be a straight swap - it will be Temporary - then eventually a full time post Caldwell didn't work - but on the surface he had a decent CV - and good contacts - which in Football are key requirements - to dismiss looking further afield- due to Caldwell failing is a nonsense But the Board will play "safe" use managing the Woman's Team as justification - which is ridiculous as managing an Amateur Team- is hardly Comparison to the Championship - but TJF will Sign it off - so its a done deal I don’t know how you took that as my implication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 3 hours ago, JAG1970 said: Good question. Defeat for either team could spell the end but I don’t think Doolan can survive another boring draw, but McCabe would. McCabe recently signed a new 3 year deal in the summer which would cost Airdrie a bit to get out of. As far as I’m aware Doolan is only on a 1 year rolling contract by comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 On 10/16/2024 at 4:45 PM, Lenziejag said: I don’t know how you took that as my implication. Because it will be the Case The Chinese Whispers on Dools are already ongoing - just as they were for McCall - so the process is already well underway Even Grahams "outburst " showing he has "passion" is part of the process ( reality it was total disrespect for the Manager & his Team Mates ) but he is Bomb Proof ( & obviously part of the " Football Committee" ) Obviously ( same as McCall ) Dools will be the fall guy for the large losses run up by the Board " overspent his budget - target was promotion blah blah - Brian Graham Club Legend - Woman's Team Manager blah blah - as a result of not getting Promotion we need Tranche 2 - blah blah " Its all a Big Merry Go Round - Board TJF - same people shuffle around - same Story - meantime Club is going No Where Fast - off the Park- or on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Because it will be the Case The Chinese Whispers on Dools are already ongoing - just as they were for McCall - so the process is already well underway Even Grahams "outburst " showing he has "passion" is part of the process ( reality it was total disrespect for the Manager & his Team Mates ) but he is Bomb Proof ( & obviously part of the " Football Committee" ) Obviously ( same as McCall ) Dools will be the fall guy for the large losses run up by the Board " overspent his budget - target was promotion blah blah - Brian Graham Club Legend - Woman's Team Manager blah blah - as a result of not getting Promotion we need Tranche 2 - blah blah " Its all a Big Merry Go Round - Board TJF - same people shuffle around - same Story - meantime Club is going No Where Fast - off the Park- or on it Or you could have just said.... " the manager is always the fall guy....for any football club Board ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 5 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Because it will be the Case The Chinese Whispers on Dools are already ongoing - just as they were for McCall - so the process is already well underway Even Grahams "outburst " showing he has "passion" is part of the process ( reality it was total disrespect for the Manager & his Team Mates ) but he is Bomb Proof ( & obviously part of the " Football Committee" ) Obviously ( same as McCall ) Dools will be the fall guy for the large losses run up by the Board " overspent his budget - target was promotion blah blah - Brian Graham Club Legend - Woman's Team Manager blah blah - as a result of not getting Promotion we need Tranche 2 - blah blah " Its all a Big Merry Go Round - Board TJF - same people shuffle around - same Story - meantime Club is going No Where Fast - off the Park- or on it I would be appalled if Brian Graham is appointed ahead of experienced managers like Ian Murray or Neil Lennon that is available, but have you been told this as a fact Jim or is it a guess? if someone on the board specifically told you this then they should be named 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 6 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Because it will be the Case The Chinese Whispers on Dools are already ongoing - just as they were for McCall - so the process is already well underway Even Grahams "outburst " showing he has "passion" is part of the process ( reality it was total disrespect for the Manager & his Team Mates ) but he is Bomb Proof ( & obviously part of the " Football Committee" ) Obviously ( same as McCall ) Dools will be the fall guy for the large losses run up by the Board " overspent his budget - target was promotion blah blah - Brian Graham Club Legend - Woman's Team Manager blah blah - as a result of not getting Promotion we need Tranche 2 - blah blah " Its all a Big Merry Go Round - Board TJF - same people shuffle around - same Story - meantime Club is going No Where Fast - off the Park- or on it The problem with Chinese whispers is that you enjoy them but then 1 hour later you feel like some more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 43 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: The problem with Chinese whispers is that you enjoy them but then 1 hour later you feel like some more. The thing about Chinese whispers is that by the time the whisper has been passed along via several people it bares no relation to what the original message was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 I doubt there's any 'chinese whispers'. Just fans making things up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, fenski said: I doubt there's any 'chinese whispers'. Just fans making things up. Did you just make that up. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 3 hours ago, Tom Hosie said: The thing about Chinese whispers is that by the time the whisper has been passed along via several people it bares no relation to what the original message was. "send three and fourpence, we're going to a dance" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 4 hours ago, Third Lanark said: have you been told this as a fact Jim or is it a guess? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 18 Author Report Share Posted October 18 On 10/14/2024 at 11:48 PM, dl1971 said: Not really. Britton/Whyte was a disaster. Gerry Collins in that camp. However I'd argue Archibald was more than decent overall. As has Doolan, notwithstanding the first quarter of this season. John Lambie did a reasonable job too....So club legends can be a success.... Let me include the greatest of all of the successes: Dave McParland! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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