Lindau Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Players coming back and hopefully Cerny back as well though Scully was pretty good on Saturday. We have a great record against them so hopefully we will get the 3 points required to finally see us safe and still in with a chance of 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hate to admit it but last night I dreamt we lost 0-2 or 0-3, and that Killie won........ C'mon Jags; prove that it was just a stupid dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyjag Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Be good to get over the line in this one, although I do believe we are safe already. The main thing is to ensure safety to allow Archie to plan for next season and accelerate contract talks with current players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 If they are fit and I admit lost track of our defensive options. Cerny Booth Seabourne Lindsay Dumbaya Osman Welsh Lawless Edwards Amoo Doolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 If they are fit and I admit lost track of our defensive options. Cerny Booth Seabourne Lindsay Dumbaya Osman Welsh Lawless Edwards Amoo Doolan You think it would be an option to take out Welsh, drop Edwards back and bring in Christie? Lawless moving to the middle. Just might inject a bit of energy. I quite like Welsh but he and Abdul together can be a bit static. Maybe Edwards can be the box to box player mentioned on another thread. I think thats why we miss Bannigan so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I'm in agreement here. Just for once I'd love to see us play without 2 defensive mids and be a bit more attack minded. Drop Welsh for Elliott and let's be more attack minded. We have talented players. Let them show that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Last 2 posts spot on. Christie could be our new MMMH. If only he could control the ball! Worth a try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) On a positive note I'll remember this season for the contribution of Dumbuya and Booth. Both charging forward, regularly ending in decent percentage balls. On the other hand I'll also remember this season for the lack of contribution in an attacking sense from our central midfield. I'm more confident the latter can be rectified with the arrival of Erskine and Edwards getting a pre-season behind him. In Edwards we may have finally replaced the roles that Craigen and Stevenson for different reasons couldn't fulfil. Till then I'd suggest we stick with the system that's got us this far. Or at least till we're mathematically safe. Edited April 29, 2016 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) according to official preview Cerny still out Seabourne and Booth back in contention team for tomorrow gallagher dumbaya miller seabourne booth osman welsh amoo edwards lawless doolan Edited April 29, 2016 by watties wallies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Strange statement last night on the ICT website. Seems to be the board hitting back against Yogi moaning in the press all week about how hard it is for them to attract and hold on to players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Definitely an argument for Elliott in and Edwards next to Abdul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) You think it would be an option to take out Welsh, drop Edwards back and bring in Christie? Lawless moving to the middle. Just might inject a bit of energy. I quite like Welsh but he and Abdul together can be a bit static. Maybe Edwards can be the box to box player mentioned on another thread. I think thats why we miss Bannigan so much Edwards played defensive mid beside Osman when we played Hamilton. It didn't work - in fact he looked a bit lost. We only started getting control of the game when he was moved forward and Dumbuya came on letting Welsh move into midfield. Edited April 29, 2016 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 If Archie takes an LSD tablet before making the team selection Elliott might well fit in next to Osman. If not though Welsh will start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Why are so many people of the opinion that we need 2 defensive mids? (Serious question - not trying to start a fight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Because you will leave a big gap that teams will exploit. We do need to score more goals and Archie has said he is looking at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Curious thst ICT have let it be known today that they are on the verge of signing 2 new players, particularly as they have been sniffing about recently and perhaps this is also a disruptive ploy for tomorrow. On the other hand defeat for us tomorrow and defeat by Kilmarnock next week and, assuming they beat Hamilton, then the last 2 games might be rather less relaxing than hoped for. Edited April 29, 2016 by JeanieD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Because you will leave a big gap that teams will exploit. We do need to score more goals and Archie has said he is looking at this. Not being so defensive would be a start. Edited April 30, 2016 by Big Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Position Total payment 1 £2,827,400 2 £2,025,600 3 £1,740,750 4 £1,529,750 5 £1,424,250 6 £1,318,750 7 £1,213,250 8 £1,160,500 9 £1,107,750 10 £1,055,000 11 £1,002,250 win today jags. win next weekend. win next tuesday. win again two weeks today. finish seventh and secure maximum we can now get in prize money. irks me it does though if we had got a result in dingwall, or a dozen other games where we should have got more than we did this season, we could have been looking at anything between £105k and £316k extra beyond what seventh will bring us ..... money that could have transformed archies budget, for targets and resignings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Not being so defensive would be a start. Archie has played to our strengths and I don't accept we are that defensive either. The attacking players we have at the club at the min are not good enough to play open attacking football. Just look at Dundee - they had Harkins, Stewart and Hemmings in their team. All would walk into our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 They're not given the opportunity to play open attacking football. I disagree that we don't have good players. I think we do. But with a focus on being trying not to concede goals, the management team have blunted our attack. And by playing Pogba so often, that attack is more blunted to the degree it's non existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 They're not given the opportunity to play open attacking football. I disagree that we don't have good players. I think we do. But with a focus on being trying not to concede goals, the management team have blunted our attack. And by playing Pogba so often, that attack is more blunted to the degree it's non existent. nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Archie has played to our strengths and I don't accept we are that defensive either. The attacking players we have at the club at the min are not good enough to play open attacking football. Just look at Dundee - they had Harkins, Stewart and Hemmings in their team. All would walk into our side. stats talk for themselves , 33 goals in 34 games , lowest in the league , I've been to games this season where we haven't even had a shot at goal . I personally think we've got a manager who would rather play safety first football than open attacking football , the game up at Dingwall sums it up for me , a game that would have cemented our top 6 place if we had went for it . Archie precedes to drop Doolan to the bench after scoring the winner against Dundee Utd and plays the non attacking threat of Pogba . Says it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) stats talk for themselves , 33 goals in 34 games , lowest in the league , I've been to games this season where we haven't even had a shot at goal . I personally think we've got a manager who would rather play safety first football than open attacking football , the game up at Dingwall sums it up for me , a game that would have cemented our top 6 place if we had went for it . Archie precedes to drop Doolan to the bench after scoring the winner against Dundee Utd and plays the non attacking threat of Pogba . Says it all We've had some poor performances this season, but there hasn't been a single game where we haven't had a shot at goal. I get the disappointment that we haven't scored more goals, but let's keep a sense of proportion. To claim that the manager wants to play safety first football only makes sense if you mean that he doesn't want us to lose games. He's been succesful in that and I'm confident he'll take steps to address the attacking issue. I'm as big a fan of Doolan as anyone, but to continually represent the selection of Pogba instead of Doolan as somehow passing up on a goal scoring machine has no basis in reality - yes, Doolan is a Thistle legend, but his goal scoring is no more than average for a striker. Pogba gives us a different dimension which Doolan doesn't. I fully expect to see Pogba start today as his physicality offers more against the hammer throwers of Inverness than Doolan's skills. Edited April 30, 2016 by Firhillista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 We've had some poor performances this season, but there hasn't been a single game where we haven't had a shot at goal. I get the disappointment that we haven't scored more goals, but let's keep a sense of proportion. To claim that the manager wants to play safety first football only makes sense if you mean that he doesn't want us to lose games. He's been succesful in that and I'm confident he'll take steps to address the attacking issue. I'm as big a fan of Doolan as anyone, but to continually represent the selection of Pogba instead of Doolan as somehow passing up on a goal scoring machine has no basis in reality - yes, Doolan is a Thistle legend, but his goal scoring is no more than average for a striker. Pogba gives us a different dimension which Doolan doesn't. I fully expect to see Pogba start today as his physicality offers more against the hammer throwers of Inverness than Doolan's skills. Im sure there has been, the ross county game we won at firhill springs to mind where we scored from an own goal. I would agree to a degree with your assessment on Pogba where its far from all his fault. I cant think of many times, if any, hes been one on one with the keeper. Our build up play is painful and clueless. We dont get enough people forward. Its as clear as day what needs addressed. Hopefully we manage to produce one of they results out of the blue today which we have done a few times this season and we are mathematically safe then the sooner the summer comes the better. It will also let Archie focus on building a team next season and keeping those out of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) We've had some poor performances this season, but there hasn't been a single game where we haven't had a shot at goal. I get the disappointment that we haven't scored more goals, but let's keep a sense of proportion. To claim that the manager wants to play safety first football only makes sense if you mean that he doesn't want us to lose games. He's been succesful in that and I'm confident he'll take steps to address the attacking issue. I'm as big a fan of Doolan as anyone, but to continually represent the selection of Pogba instead of Doolan as somehow passing up on a goal scoring machine has no basis in reality - yes, Doolan is a Thistle legend, but his goal scoring is no more than average for a striker. Pogba gives us a different dimension which Doolan doesn't. I fully expect to see Pogba start today as his physicality offers more against the hammer throwers of Inverness than Doolan's skills. Get that totally but where does the goal scoring threat come from then , at the moment Kris Doolan has scored almost 1/3 of the goals we've scored this season and until there is someone better to take his place then he should play . Pogba isn't that man and on a side note Doolan has a great record against Inverness . Take Doolans winning goals out of the 2 Dundee Utd games and the St Johnstone game where would we be ? Edited April 30, 2016 by jlsarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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