allyo Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 11:38 PM, ironfist said: Mansell too if it can be done. GC on off the ball saying no player picked him in their favoured team for match against QoS end of last season- says it all Did he really?! What kind of vindictive petty person would unecessarily undermine the reputation of a young player who he had signed, after he has left?! I didn't hear it but if that's true it's shocking, and for me says a lot more about Gary Caldwell than Lewis Mansell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 TBF I don't think GC named him but it was kinda obvious who he meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, allyo said: Did he really?! What kind of vindictive petty person would unecessarily undermine the reputation of a young player who he had signed, after he has left?! I didn't hear it but if that's true it's shocking, and for me says a lot more about Gary Caldwell than Lewis Mansell Didn’t Mansell play vs QOS and score ? I didn’t hear the interview either but maybe Caldwell is saying he knows best ? However, don’t really disagree with what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falklandal1 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Albert's Ghost said: TBF I don't think GC named him but it was kinda obvious who he meant. Heard the broadcast,could only have been Lewis he was talking about, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, allyo said: Did he really?! What kind of vindictive petty person would unecessarily undermine the reputation of a young player who he had signed, after he has left?! I didn't hear it but if that's true it's shocking, and for me says a lot more about Gary Caldwell than Lewis Mansell This from a manager who conjured up ‘envelopegate’ in the first place. Idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, allyo said: Did he really?! What kind of vindictive petty person would unecessarily undermine the reputation of a young player who he had signed, after he has left?! I didn't hear it but if that's true it's shocking, and for me says a lot more about Gary Caldwell than Lewis Mansell This 19 minutes ago, sandy said: This from a manager who conjured up ‘envelopegate’ in the first place. Idiot. And this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, falklandal1 said: Heard the broadcast,could only have been Lewis he was talking about, Only other person I could think of was it being Ally Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Caldwell mentioned that one player had not been chosen in any of the players' team selections except by that player in his own selection...he then went on to say the player had scored in the game. Our scorers in the Queen of the South game were Mansell, McDonald and Bannigan...so it doesn't require great powers of deduction to work out that Mansell was the player he was referring to. Maybe Caldwell was a footballing visionary who saw something in Mansell that none of his team-mates had done...or maybe he was an awful manager who gave a two year contract to a player who, on what little I have seen, is not even up to the very poor standard of our current squad. Edited December 23, 2019 by Winter of '63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Winter of '63 said: Maybe Caldwell was a footballing visionary who saw something in Mansell that none of his team-mates had done...or maybe he was an awful manager who gave a two year contract to a player who, on what little I have seen, is not even up to the very poor standard of our current squad. I happen to know that around this time last season Caldwell was enthusing about Mansell. I assume he must have been chuffed to bits when he signed him on a permanent deal. Surprising it was only a two year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironfist Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, allyo said: Did he really?! What kind of vindictive petty person would unecessarily undermine the reputation of a young player who he had signed, after he has left?! I didn't hear it but if that's true it's shocking, and for me says a lot more about Gary Caldwell than Lewis Mansell Yes, he was named. GC was getting stick for envelopegate, and was quite bitter about the negativity given that thistle then pumped QoS in the following match. He thought he was making the point that despite none of the other players including him, he chose to pick Mansell and he scored. therefore it was not the players picking the team but rather good management by him and the exercise had been some kind of motivational master stroke. whatever you think it says about Caldwell - and I would agree- unfortunately it also says a lot about Mansell... Edited December 23, 2019 by ironfist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I think people forget that the Mansell goal v queen of south for which he gets so much praise was actually a sitter that he missed - albeit he was alert enough to score the rebound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 11:19 PM, ironfist said: Yes, he was named. GC was getting stick for envelopegate, and was quite bitter about the negativity given that thistle then pumped QoS in the following match. He thought he was making the point that despite none of the other players including him, he chose to pick Mansell and he scored. therefore it was not the players picking the team but rather good management by him and the exercise had been some kind of motivational master stroke. whatever you think it says about Caldwell - and I would agree- unfortunately it also says a lot about Mansell... Still think as an option on the bench I would take Mansell instead of Harkins as a Centre Forward. Somebody mentioned Nathan Austin as a possible Jan target, currently with Kelty Hearts as a part time player , too good for that level , think he’s scored 27 goals already this season. Think he scored 13 goals for Inverness last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Still think as an option on the bench I would take Mansell instead of Harkins as a Centre Forward. Somebody mentioned Nathan Austin as a possible Jan target, currently with Kelty Hearts as a part time player , too good for that level , think he’s scored 27 goals already this season. Think he scored 13 goals for Inverness last season Don't know if i would want't another Austin. Our current one has hardly got out the garage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy malarkey Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 I think McGinty would be better used as a nailed down centre half in the middle of a back four , with Bannigan in front of him . Miller disrupts team balance and should be on the bench , replacing Cardle when he runs out of puff . Mansell lack confidence and a decent supply when he's been playing , but seems willing to chase everything up front . I nearly left early for the first time when we brought on Harkins as centre forward . Bound to end in tears , especially with his diinterested body-language . Killed what little enthusiasm there was in the team . There's also the persistence with playing down the left side - it's not working . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 After watching the He Wears No 9 video, i would be very surprised if we don't sign Doolan. Also think Erskine will return. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Auld Jag said: After watching the He Wears No 9 video, i would be very surprised if we don't sign Doolan. Also think Erskine will return. I personally wouldn't sign them. They are both done I'm afraid. We can spend the money on more productive acquisitions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago1953 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 11:59 PM, Auld Jag said: Don't know if i would want't another Austin. Our current one has hardly got out the garage. We need a JAG but Austins and Skodas is our budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 11:19 PM, ironfist said: Yes, he was named. GC was getting stick for envelopegate, and was quite bitter about the negativity given that thistle then pumped QoS in the following match. He thought he was making the point that despite none of the other players including him, he chose to pick Mansell and he scored. therefore it was not the players picking the team but rather good management by him and the exercise had been some kind of motivational master stroke. whatever you think it says about Caldwell - and I would agree- unfortunately it also says a lot about Mansell... Every time I hear GC on the wireless it just reiterates what a fud he is. Self opinionated, lacking in houmour/ personality , deluded. Thank God we got rid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: I personally wouldn't sign them. They are both done I'm afraid. We can spend the money on more productive acquisitions. I am just going by what is said on the DVD. Players say how good a player and professional he is. McCall also says he was surprised and also thought it was a mistake for Thistle to let him go. He also talks about how professional he is both on and off the park and says he does a lot of good work with younger players. Erskine also says he himself could return to Firhill at some point. Think if one or both came back it would be in some coaching position as well as playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Emsca said: Every time I hear GC on the wireless it just reiterates what a fud he is. Self opinionated, lacking in houmour/ personality , deluded. Thank God we got rid. Agree. Just a pity he was ever our manager in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: I am just going by what is said on the DVD. Players say how good a player and professional he is. McCall also says he was surprised and also thought it was a mistake for Thistle to let him go. He also talks about how professional he is both on and off the park and says he does a lot of good work with younger players. Erskine also says he himself could return to Firhill at some point. Think if one or both came back it would be in some coaching position as well as playing. As we seem to have a few coaches these days I don't see where they would fit in. IMO it would be a waste of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: As we seem to have a few coaches these days I don't see where they would fit in. IMO it would be a waste of money. None being used this Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Jago1953 said: We need a JAG but Austins and Skodas is our budget We could be doing with a Lada to held climb the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 We're Reliant on other results going our way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: We're Reliant on other results going our way too. Refs are Robin us with some poor decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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