jlsarmy Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Hell of a good statement (Even if the date is wrong) I’m glad we seem to be fighting our corner, hopefully Sevco and Hearts do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, javeajag said: So we did take legal advice after all ..... Maybe Gerry has called in a few favours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 The explanation for Dundee now clear .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, javeajag said: The explanation for Dundee now clear .... Maybe Neil and Peter have read that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Stephen1876 said: The one redeeming point for Dundee is that the majority of their fans seem to be as seething as us about it. Is this perhaps the reason Dundee are dithering over going public with their vote? From what I've seen on the Dundee site (pie and bovril) a number of their fans are saying that if Dundee fails to honour the agreement with ICT and ourselves they will never go back to Dens Park! Others just want to stop United getting promoted! A little hope still, perhaps! I know probably wishful thinking on my part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, gianlucatoni said: decent statement from the club Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, javeajag said: There will be a vaccine in September Pointless words I'm afraid. Will there be a vaccine that has been tested and approved as safe for use? Will there be a vaccine that can be produced in the massive numbers to inoculate the population of Europe ... of Asia … of the Americas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Excellent statement from the club. Just knew we would be ferreting away in the background. Provided we are not bluffing there is enough in this statement to let the SPFL know there could be a legal challenge. The request from PTFC to Doncaster to circulate to all 42clubs full details of loans available and circumstances in which they can be applied for is a very good tactic! If the SPFL refuse this request it will not look good in court and if they agree to the request it will be tantamount to admitting this information was either not known or not previously readily available. We might not win in the long run but on this point the phrase 'over a barrel' comes to mind! Now we need to get Rangers and Hearts (and another clubs) onside! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 What I need is a vaccine to protect me from the SPFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: Will there be a vaccine that has been tested and approved as safe for use? Will there be a vaccine that can be produced in the massive numbers to inoculate the population of Europe ... of Asia … of the Americas? Yes probably not in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colognejag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Very good statement. Well done the Board. If anything, the time it would take to sort out a legal challenge might force the SPFL to seek a fair route out of this. If they truly care about Scottish football, they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Well done board. Gloves aff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, exiledjag said: Excellent statement from the club. Just knew we would be ferreting away in the background. Provided we are not bluffing there is enough in this statement to let the SPFL know there could be a legal challenge. The request from PTFC to Doncaster to circulate to all 42clubs full details of loans available and circumstances in which they can be applied for is a very good tactic! If the SPFL refuse this request it will not look good in court and if they agree to the request it will be tantamount to admitting this information was either not known or not previously readily available. We might not win in the long run but on this point the phrase 'over a barrel' comes to mind! Now we need to get Rangers and Hearts (and another clubs) onside! Good point..and a lot of clubs apparently only voted for the proposal based on releasing the funds so if they are shown the loans were available in the first place and this information wasn't made available at the time- sure this won't go down well and will indicate further that whole voting process was heavily weighted in favour of shutting down the league Edited April 14, 2020 by Jag36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jag36 said: Good point..and a lot of clubs apparently only voted for the proposal based on releasing the funds so if they are shown the loans were available in the first place and this information wasn't made available at the time- sure this won't go down well Think of the biggest rock v biggest hard place. There lies Mr Doncaster and his board. Not forgetting that Shyster Nelms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Think of the biggest rock v biggest hard place. There lies Mr Doncaster and his board. Not forgetting that Shyster Nelms. Exactly and would imagine they've spent the last few days trying to figure away out this. Excellent timing too by Thistle as it would appear Dundee are very close to slyly changing their vote. Looks like the SPFL tactic is just going to be to push it through and try to ride it out- so the more pressure the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jag36 said: Good point..and a lot of clubs apparently only voted for the proposal based on releasing the funds so if they are shown the loans were available in the first place and this information wasn't made available at the time- sure this won't go down well and will indicate further that whole voting process was heavily weighted in favour of shutting down the league Whicc is what I keep coming back to. Why were the SPFL so desperate to get the Leagues wound up?j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colognejag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Emsca said: Whicc is what I keep coming back to. Why were the SPFL so desperate to get the Leagues wound up?j So Celtic can be crowned champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Whatever we do even if it is legally based won't mean a thing to these corrupt arsewipes. We are 'too wee' to care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Emsca said: Whicc is what I keep coming back to. Why were the SPFL so desperate to get the Leagues wound up?j Setting a precedent for the Premier League to finish..payouts to SPFL board members and executives..you're right that is what it all comes back to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colognejag said: So Celtic can be crowned champions. But are Celtic that desperate to get a title which will always have an asterisk against it, especially as they would be odds on to get the 9 in a row whenever football resumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colognejag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: But are Celtic that desperate to get a title which will always have an asterisk against it, especially as they would be odds on to get the 9 in a row whenever football resumes. Absolutely they are! Can you hear Celtic and their masses (oops) shouting from the rooftops NOT to get the title? Edited April 14, 2020 by Colognejag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Knowing us, we’ll win the legal battle, the season will be played to a finish ( at some stage) and then we’ll be relegated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Can’t help but feel we’ll be the most hated club after all this happens for prolonging the season instead of just saying ‘Aye just relegate us, we don’t mind.’ I think we are right to do what we are doing but think it’s just delaying the inevitable, they will never null and void the season, realistically the season won’t get finished and there will be another vote later to end the season which will get accepted as other clubs chairmans are too scared to upset the big teams. I can’t see reconstruction happening either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: The SPFL don’t control the Highland/Lowland leagues so at some point the money gets diluted. It also changes the terms of the tv contract, so that needs to be renegotiated. Don’t get me wrong. I fully support the idea and would love to see bigger leagues, but there are complications to every solution and time is running out for cash strapped clubs. I can see why the SPFL proposed this as the easiest solution for them to implement if the vote had passed. I just don’t understand the need for the underhand way they went about it I don’t know the details of the tv contract, but what we hear is the number of games to be televised and it is the tv companies that decide. They could just ignore Utd and ICT if they want. There are too many barriers being put up in what are unprecedented conditions. I am sure there is no real dilution in the contracts. It’s just timing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, javeajag said: There will be a vaccine in September Maybe, but then manufacturing needs to ramped up so that there is enough for everyone on the planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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