avie-man Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Hes getting the Archie treatment now, Gets a free ride because of his service to the club, but its not working at all. Has barely kicked a ball for months, yet folk like Storey because they've always been shite get way more criticism than Dools. Theres a serious problem with sentimentality at Thistle and its going to cost us two straight relegations at this rate. We are blatantly happy to carry passengers because they have given good service to the club at one point or another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, avie-man said: Hes getting the Archie treatment now, Gets a free ride because of his service to the club, but its not working at all. Has barely kicked a ball for months, yet folk like Storey because they've always been shite get way more criticism than Dools. Theres a serious problem with sentimentality at Thistle and its going to cost us two straight relegations at this rate. We are blatantly happy to carry passengers because they have given good service to the club at one point or another. take your point avie-man but have a look at jagzone and listen to doolan re our tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Doolan barely touched the ball today. He had not one glimmer of a chance. I doubt shankland or dobbie would do much better......as we simply don't get into the box or the by line enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 We have a squad full of players who are underperforming. Kris Doolan is just one of them. He shouldn't be immune to criticism but nor should he be singled out. There is a much deeper problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Firstly agree re sentiment however if Doolan played for at least 5 of our rivals in league he would be on 15goals+. A good manager knows how to get the best of, sadly we don’t have that luxury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.H Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, allyo said: We have a squad full of players who are underperforming. Kris Doolan is just one of them. He shouldn't be immune to criticism but nor should he be singled out. There is a much deeper problem. The manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, avie-man said: Hes getting the Archie treatment now, Gets a free ride because of his service to the club, but its not working at all. Has barely kicked a ball for months, yet folk like Storey because they've always been shite get way more criticism than Dools. Theres a serious problem with sentimentality at Thistle and its going to cost us two straight relegations at this rate. We are blatantly happy to carry passengers because they have given good service to the club at one point or another. Think we’ve got more pressing stuff going on just now , especially with a clown of a manager, how many chances did we create today ? , how many times did the midfield join up with the attack, even get beyond the attackers . Do you think Conor Sammon is the answer ? , Doolan was poor today , did fine last week when the team attacked , no creativity in the team , missing Lawless and Erskine creating chances . Doolans game was never about out jumping 6 foot centre halves , it’s key that Miles Storey isn’t scoring either . Doolan and Storey are never a partnership, when did you see Storey play a 1 - 2 with anyone. You could play anyone up front just now and they wouldn’t score either , we are where are just now because we’re a bad team , tell me the last time there was a 20 goal a season striker in a team rooted to the bottom of the league. Edited January 12, 2019 by jlsarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) I'd be interested to know, avie-man, any incident today where Doolan squandered a clear cut scoring opportunity. Thought he might have got his head to a cross from the right early on but there was little chance of him directing the ball on target even if he did. Edited January 12, 2019 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Think we’ve got more pressing stuff going on just now , especially with a clown of a manager, how many chances did we create today ? , how many times did the midfield join up with the attack, even get beyond the attackers . Do you think Conor Sammon is the answer ? , Doolan was poor today , did fine last week when the team attacked , no creativity in the team , missing Lawless and Erskine creating chances . Doolans game was never about out jumping 6 foot centre halves , it’s key that Miles Storey isn’t scoring either . Doolan and Storey are never a partnership, when did you see Storey play a 1 - 2 with anyone. You could play anyone up front just now and they wouldn’t score either , we are where are just now because we’re a bad team , tell me the last time there was a 20 goal a season striker in a team rooted to the bottom of the league. Doolan did fine last week he should have had 2 goals before he did score but was poor and as for the week before against Morton- awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Doolan did fine last week he should have had 2 goals before he did score but was poor and as for the week before against Morton- awful you know what TL over the wee while i've bitten my lip to reply to comments re doolan do you have some issue with kris doolan, your posts are so negative against this player can you help me with this?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Doolan barely touched the ball today. He had not one glimmer of a chance. I doubt shankland or dobbie would do much better......as we simply don't get into the box or the by line enough. You think shankland and Dobie rely on service? You don’t think they create their own chances. Doolan is not even our top scorer that is someone who is not even a striker. Do you think he has relied on service? That’s 2 relegations campaigns Doolan is being involved in and he is supposed to be one of the experienced members of the team. 2 managers he has been poor under this season. He never challenged a poor referee or linesman decision and has offered little leadership skills on the park. By his standards of previous years he has been dreadful as for being singled out that’s nonsense- if Spittal had put in the anonymous performances that Doolan has he would have been hounded out of Firhill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, watties wallies said: you know what TL over the wee while i've bitten my lip to reply to comments re doolan do you have some issue with kris doolan, your posts are so negative against this player can you help me with this?: I have issues with his performances this season- been dreadful. He is a legend, a gentleman and rightly deserves a testimonial. As I say issues with him on the pitch this season- not been good enough and in comparison to previous seasons very very disappointing if you think his performances have been acceptable this season or he should not be criticised because he is a legend then your entitled to your opinion but one of the reasons we are in this mess is because of a legend who should have been moved on a year ago Edited January 12, 2019 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I have issues with his performances this season- been dreadful. He is a legend, a gentleman and rightly deserves a testimonial. As I say issues with him on the pitch this season- not been good enough and in comparison to previous seasons very very disappointing if you think his performances have been acceptable this season or he should not be criticised because he is a legend then your entitled to your opinion but one of the reasons we are in this mess is because of a legend who should have been moved on a year ago hi TL thanks for replying do you subscribe to jagzone and hear what doolan says about our tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, watties wallies said: hi TL thanks for replying do you subscribe to jagzone and hear what doolan says about our tactics I do subscribe but with new baby etc I haven’t had the chance and part of me feels I can’t be bothered with Caldwell’s excuses etc. What did he say WW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoAvdiu Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: You think shankland and Dobie rely on service? You don’t think they create their own chances. Doolan is not even our top scorer that is someone who is not even a striker. Do you think he has relied on service? That’s 2 relegations campaigns Doolan is being involved in and he is supposed to be one of the experienced members of the team. 2 managers he has been poor under this season. He never challenged a poor referee or linesman decision and has offered little leadership skills on the park. By his standards of previous years he has been dreadful as for being singled out that’s nonsense- if Spittal had put in the anonymous performances that Doolan has he would have been hounded out of Firhill I’ve seen you make this point about Doolan approximately 382927 times in the last few months. He’s been poor but if you think he’s our major issue you need your head examined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, watties wallies said: hi TL thanks for replying do you subscribe to jagzone and hear what doolan says about our tactics can i semi hijack as a non jagzone subscriber? What does he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, KemoAvdiu said: I’ve seen you make this point about Doolan approximately 382927 times in the last few months. He’s been poor but if you think he’s our major issue you need your head examined. Where did I say he was our major issue? I don’t recall once saying he was our major issue. Maybe you just like making things Up. Il say clearly It’s clearly Caldwell and some of the board that our major issue. A number of the players haven’t helped though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 My concern if he is dropped is that a chance will fall in the box to someone else and be squandered. No idea what Roy is like but Storey couldn’t hit the target from 2 centimetres. I agree that we don’t create chances which is the main problem. But there is truth in the above comment that sometimes strikers have to make their own chances and Kris has not been doing this recently. A simple solution which seems beyond our manager is to play his pal Erskine FROM THE START who has been a good provider of goals for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Exactly. Storey is the first name on the team sheet week in week out. Which is ridiculous. How many goals? How many assists? He got into a good position today having gone past a couple of players and instead of shooting, he tries to go past another couple of players. Later on - complete opposite. Shoots form an impossible angle instead of passing it. Another failing of the manager. Erskine and Doolan know each other’s game inside out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, elevenone said: can i semi hijack as a non jagzone subscriber? What does he say? what he and others have said is that we can play down either wing and wait for the perfect cross into the the box which inevitably never happens in other words play through the middle at pace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle88 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, avie-man said: Hes getting the Archie treatment now, Gets a free ride because of his service to the club, but its not working at all. Has barely kicked a ball for months, yet folk like Storey because they've always been shite get way more criticism than Dools. Theres a serious problem with sentimentality at Thistle and its going to cost us two straight relegations at this rate. We are blatantly happy to carry passengers because they have given good service to the club at one point or another. Doolan is always at his best when others are creating space for him and he can exploit space between the opposition's defence. We have however decided that playing without people that can commit defenders and letting doolan just stoat about is going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 A striker can only score if given service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: I do subscribe but with new baby etc I haven’t had the chance and part of me feels I can’t be bothered with Caldwell’s excuses etc. What did he say WW? Hope you don't mind me asking TL. Everything ok with your new baby and do we have a future Jags player for the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: My concern if he is dropped is that a chance will fall in the box to someone else and be squandered. No idea what Roy is like but Storey couldn’t hit the target from 2 centimetres. I agree that we don’t create chances which is the main problem. But there is truth in the above comment that sometimes strikers have to make their own chances and Kris has not been doing this recently. A simple solution which seems beyond our manager is to play his pal Erskine FROM THE START who has been a good provider of goals for him. Don’t think that’s going to happen now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 So... doolan is a penalty box striker I’m guessing maybe none of his goals have been scored from outside the box so he depends on either us getting to the byeline or creating chances through padding into the box if we are honest it’s s long time since we have regularly done either but in addition he hasn’t been great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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