Auld Jag Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 The ref was poor, how he didn't book their goalie for the amount of time wasting, i will never know. Hamilton had all the tricks in the book, the already mentioned time wasting, going down all the time, but none of that can hide just how bad we were. Our passing was terrible and when we went 2 down there was still over 70 minutes for us to get back into the game. Imo we never showed any urgency or fight at the end of the day an easy 3 points for Hamilton. I would have given motm to Rooney, who at least showed some desire. A big improvement required in remaining games if we are to cling on to 4th. When you see what Falkirk have done and we increased our budget this season to what has been called a promotion winning one, what a missed opportunity this season has been. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 We are gash, a really sufferable watch too. Â Play offs if we make em is only delaying the obvious. Â At best only 3-4 of that squad I would retain for next season and that is being generous. Â May not be festive season but humbug all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I'll leave the talk of manager to the other thread. Regardless tho' who is in charge how can we possibly get results with a midget midfield consisting of Crawford, Turner & Stanway? Do we really expect Turner in the holding role to win his fair share of 50/50 balls? Why he was left so isolated is anyone's guess. It's not as if we were compensating by attacking thru the middle. I realise Bannigan would normally have played but he can only offer damage limitation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: We should all be thankful for the points that Doolan got us up to Christmas, to get beat last week by the team at the bottom of the league, then today beaten by the team second bottom and who have we got next week the 3rd bottom team, can we make it 3 in a row....... Results like this are pretty much why McCall and Doolan lost their jobs. Something fundamentaly wrong with the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Honestly looked like the team had Downed Tools today, everyone was terrible, did we practice anything in training last week.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 25 minutes ago, Jimmy McD said: Honestly looked like the team had Downed Tools today, everyone was terrible, did we practice anything in training last week.. Didn't look like Dan O'Reilly had been practising overhead kicks. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtastic Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Jag36 said: Results like this are pretty much why McCall and Doolan lost their jobs. Something fundamentaly wrong with the squad My take on this is that the squad simply isn’t good enough. We are currently relying on Bannigan being fit to have passable midfield presence. That should really tell you everything you need to know about the rest of them right now. I am all for bringing players through, but Stanway isn’t good enough. He’s Lyon 2.0. The whole shooshing the crowd after his (fantastic) goal at Hamilton, then turning in performances like today when given the chance is pretty disappointing to say the least.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 6 hours ago, Winter of '63 said: This season has been drudgery but today even my low expectations weren't met. Hamilton weren't very good but didn't have to be to win fairly comfortably - they buried two chances assisted by dopey defending. I can't say I have noted any particular improvement or much change since Graham & Wilson took over but more a continuation of the lack of cohesion by a team with some decent players. I'm not sure why the wingers were switched when Fitzpatrick was looking a threat - nothing came off for Chalmers today but at least he didn't hide. One of the features of last season were the invisible man performances of McInroy & Alston in the attacking midfield role - they have been replaced in this key role by Crawford who has no discernible skill set - a player who doesn't show for the ball and doesn't do anything on the few occasions he comes into contact with it - an utterly abject "pass" out for a goql-kick a low spot in a poor day. Lawless showed what can be done in linking up play in that role. We don't really deserve to be in the play-off and can't see us making progress if we hold on to fourth. Feel a bit sorry for Graham but his audition isn't going well - Barraclough has a tough task ahead.     Agreed about Crawford. I think that people should look more critically at Turner. He does nothing with the ball. If he doesn't lose control (awful first touches) or lose the ball itself, he makes totally useless passes to players who are beside or behind him. And a set piece "specialist" ? My backside! Utterly average or below average player, even at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: Honestly looked like the team had Downed Tools today, everyone was terrible, did we practice anything in training last week.. The manager said training was great..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 21 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Agreed about Crawford. I think that people should look more critically at Turner. He does nothing with the ball. If he doesn't lose control (awful first touches) or lose the ball itself, he makes totally useless passes to players who are beside or behind him. And a set piece "specialist" ? My backside! Utterly average or below average player, even at this level. Turner has been woeful all season. His free kick near the goal line after Fitzy was fouled was an absolute joke. in no way am I sticking up for Graham & Wilson, but wtf are they supposed to do with a badly assembled squad with a non-existent midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 4 hours ago, jaggy said: Turner has been woeful all season. His free kick near the goal line after Fitzy was fouled was an absolute joke. in no way am I sticking up for Graham & Wilson, but wtf are they supposed to do with a badly assembled squad with a non-existent midfield? Turner has been poor all season but he hasn’t got the physicality to be a holding midfielder, that is totally down to BG and Mark Wilson No idea what game BG or Mark Wilson were watching yesterday but taking off a fit Stanway who was one of our better players and also fit to get round the park was ridiculous, especially when you had a non player in Robbie Crawford and Logan Chalmers who was having an absolute nightmare. Lawless and Ablade should have been on at half time so they could actually affect the game . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Game management yesterday was completely the fault of Graham and Wilson. Players should have been hooked at HT, with Ablade getting a full 45mins. But the squad itself - that's the fault of Doolan and Co's unbalanced and scattergun approach to recruitment over the last two seasons. Absolutely no coherent strategy whatsoever which means we lack both pace and height in key areas. Not to mention an overabundance of carbon copy, copy and paste players that have no discernable attributes that make them stand out or offer anything different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 What stood out yesterday and pretty much every week has been the standard of finishing. Even during the warm ups you can see the difference. Our finishing is abysmal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Knew it was going to be a crap performance very early on because we were giving them so much space in midfield. I have no idea what Crawford and Stanway were supposed to be doing, but whatever it was it left Turner alone trying to do multiple jobs at once. Fitzpatrick looked threatening at times. Ashcroft did his job, Budinaukus distribution pace was good. Only other positive was that cross from Rooney. Hopefully a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 And oh, it was entirely predictable that Robinson would score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Yet another disappointing performance, an awful match to watch. I thought we looked OK until Hamilton scored but, from then on, it was a very frustrating afternoon. The void between Turner and the other two midfielders was to big and we were constantly being stretched. Turner hasn't had a good season but you are never going to get the best of him in that role. Banzo was a huge miss. The other miss was Reid - well, a left back anyway - as it moved O'Reilly out of the middle, where he is a lot more effective. Everything was down the right hand side in the first half and most of the things Chalmers was involved in didn't come off. He didn't have a good day but the abuse he received was embarrassing, especially for a player that has put so much in to the season. Do fans think booing him and telling him to get off the park is going to help? As someone else said, he didn't hide and that is a great attribute in my opinion. Actually felt sorry for him. Ashcroft was OK and, for me, Lawless was the only other one with pass marks. One thing I would say in the slight defence of the management is the squad was very light yesterday. Lawless, Abalde and three teenagers were the bench. For everybody screaming for changes, there really weren't a lot of options and even wee Stevie came on in a role that he hasn't played in for some time. That said, the opportunity to put an eleven out that could beat a really poor Hamilton team was there. I agree with @elevenone The only good thing to come out of the game was it probably means Brian Graham won't be in the running for the job. The honeymoon period is most definitely over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said: Game management yesterday was completely the fault of Graham and Wilson. Players should have been hooked at HT, with Ablade getting a full 45mins. But the squad itself - that's the fault of Doolan and Co's unbalanced and scattergun approach to recruitment over the last two seasons. Absolutely no coherent strategy whatsoever which means we lack both pace and height in key areas. Not to mention an overabundance of carbon copy, copy and paste players that have no discernable attributes that make them stand out or offer anything different. The squad was too big at the start of the season, now it is too small. The January clear out was due to a massive overspend in summer, cuts had to be made. The people running the club are not qualified to do so. It's as simple as that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Irs worth saying again …..the key fact is that our midfield has been wrong all season. It’s needs a complete overhaul.  and yesterday Bannigan was clearly missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 9 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Didn't look like Dan O'Reilly had been practising overhead kicks. Reminded me of this classic O.G. Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Yesterday just emphasised what we have known all season. The squad is really imbalanced and key areas were either not strengthened or recruitment was very poor. The decision to bring Crawford back gets more baffling every time you see him. The guy puts in a lot of effort but offers absolutely nothing with the ball, not much point having a guy in the team pressing high up the pitch when your teammates are 30 yards behind you (not his fault may I add). Stanway is nowhere near good enough to play at this level. I'd be amazed if his passing stats showed above 10% accuracy, he constantly gives it away. His fitness is dire, looks done after 20 minutes. No idea why his substitution was booed, he offers nothing. One thing I will say in his defence, why he was played so far up the pitch I don't know. Turner was trying to do the job of 3 players, you could clearly see the frustration in his play. No excuses for his set pieces though, dreadful. I don't think Lawless will be the player he once was but playing in the role that Stanway occupied, he clearly has something to offer. His movement and eye for a pass is night and day to anyone else in that position. Rooney looked ok when he came on and delivered a great ball that Graham should have buried, we might have had a chance at sneaking a draw if that had gone in. Megwa was dreadful from the off, not sure I've seen a player consistently make the wrong decision every time he got the ball. Sure injuries and suspensions don't help but we just looked so easy to play against. Fitzy and Chalmers battled away but our tactic seems to be to give them the ball and then stand and hope they do it all alone. Graham was non existent as well yesterday, not sure McGinty will have an easier afternoon. A big improvement needed if that team is to scrape over the line and in to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Will be very interesting next season when the 6 second rule for keepers come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) I'm highly critical of how static we are as a team when we're in possession of the ball. Even when 2-0 down on Saturday, there were a couple of times when our midfielder with the ball was standing absolutely still, waiting for some kind of movement further ahead. And of course there's the famous sideways and turn-back-pass-back moves that our players appear to be absolutely addicted to. After several such passes we are usually no closer to the opposition's goal and therefore no nearer to scoring, or else we lose possession. Well, Newcastle's 4-1 win over Man U. has three excellent examples of how d'cking around in midfield or defence like that ("keeping possession") can lead to catastrophe. Edited April 14 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/beneficiary-boardroom-experience-welcomes-mark-and-luke/ What happened to Matthew and John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 24 minutes ago, partickthedog said: https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/beneficiary-boardroom-experience-welcomes-mark-and-luke/ What happened to Matthew and John? It's Jonah I'm worried about... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, jagfox said: It's Jonah I'm worried about... Keep an eye out for whales when crossing the Firth of Forth on Saturday. (Hopefully it will not become the Firth of Fifth.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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