Woodstock Jag Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 I would be surprised if we end up with anything more than a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirdrieJag Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: I would be surprised if we end up with anything more than a fine. I hope you're right. You've called it correctly most of the way to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, AirdrieJag said: I suspect you're right. They will want to assert their authority over the game and will hammer us for having the temerity to challenge the football establishment. I suspect any one of a large fine, exclusion from one of the cup competitions, points deduction - or a combination of the above. They certainly won't be interested in bridge building. That's not in their DNA Does the SFA have the right to deduct points or relegate teams in the SPFL? I suspect not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: I would be surprised if we end up with anything more than a fine. Hawl you! I said that yesterday - stop plagiarising my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirdrieJag Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, jaggy said: Does the SFA have the right to deduct points or relegate teams in the SPFL? I suspect I think I read somewhere that the disciplinary panel can impose 'such penalty as they consider appropriate' instead of, or as well as, expulsion, suspension or fine, but you may be right, Jaggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, gianlucatoni said: Hawl you! I said that yesterday - stop plagiarising my opinion! I can’t help it if you’re sometimes right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: I would be surprised if we end up with anything more than a fine. I think you're right, but we shouldn't even get that, given the precedent of Rangers taking the SFA to the court of session in 2012 and not even being cited for it, let alone punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Would be right if they decide to not fine us or Hearts. Can they take the high ground and let it slide, or will they stick it in even deeper? I will at least give them some credit if they choose to not 'punish' teams for standing up for themselves, when they've had little choice but to do so. Maybe I'll get a surprise, who knows.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: It would not surprise me, for example, if the tribunal was referred in argument to the SPFL’s TV and sponsorship contracts, to private discussions about those contracts, etc. Indeed those materials were precisely the subject of discussion in the context of whether the SPFL had provided adequate information to Clubs to make informed decisions about the resolution. Publishing those contracts could be detrimental in future for the SPFL in sponsorship negotiations with other broadcasters and sponsors. The actual reasons for the decision? It’s probable that these would have been discussed at tribunal. However, I wouldn’t say that the TV deal with Sky is commercially sensitive, though - isn’t it for 5 years ? What sponsors ? - the league isn’t sponsored. Surely the reason is that the SPFL acted within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 I convince myself we will get no more than a slap on wrist. And then convince myself the other way. This has been a circus (not really of our making) and they willl want to ensure Scottish football is not put into a big top ever again. That said I am sure there will be a recognition of the inherent unfairness of this. Some of the ongoing statements Don’t even suggest acceptance now after arbitration which does worry me. All in all though I think the sfa want an easy life The quickest way to bring this whole thing to a close is to not be overly harsh on the two clubs. That’s why I am going for a ticking off only or very very small fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, CotterJag said: Would be right if they decide to not fine us or Hearts. Can they take the high ground and let it slide, or will they stick it in even deeper? I will at least give them some credit if they choose to not 'punish' teams for standing up for themselves, when they've had little choice but to do so. Maybe I'll get a surprise, who knows.... In the current climate I am expecting that they are currently looking for the biggest, heaviest book to throw at us. I can't see any desire from the authorities to bring this to a close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, jaf said: . That’s why I am going for a ticking off only or very very small fine. I'm thinking along the lines of suspended punishment, either on its own or in addition to a token punishment. Punishment held under suspension more or less will guarantee our compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 On the face of it there doesn't seem to be any doubt we broke the SFA's Articles of Association rule 99. Ignorance of the law and all that. Anyone care to speculate what our defence might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 The problem is the SFA will want to send a message if not to us and hearts but the rest of Scottish football to say dont try and take us or the SPFL to court. A small fine or suspended fine/sentence will not do this and only give precedent to other clubs in the future. In saying that I still think they must have some common sense and realise that we have been punished enough through relegation to impose a ridiculous fine would be crazy and given the support we have received from some sports journalists could just end up being a PR nightmare. I think we will get the minimum fine with a slap on the wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, a f kincaid said: On the face of it there doesn't seem to be any doubt we broke the SFA's Articles of Association rule 99. Ignorance of the law and all that. Anyone care to speculate what our defence might be? Perhaps go with something like, due to the pandemic shutting cafes and grounding ice cream vans that particular rule could not apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Looks like a small fine the outcome. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, elevenone said: Looks like a small fine the outcome. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ Less than Doncaster’s daily wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 22 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: I would be surprised if we end up with anything more than a fine. Oh look, he's right again. Bow down before Cassandra, mere mortals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Oh look, he's right again. Bow down before Cassandra, mere mortals. You are an insufferable twat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: You are an insufferable twat. Correction: I am a RIGHT insufferable twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 want a medal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Correction: I am a RIGHT insufferable twat Shouldn't that be a RIGHT WING insufferable twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Got away with one there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Got away with one there. Not really .... as many predicted a fine was the likely outcome .... indeed someone posted that hearts were unconcerned about the sfa action but god rubbished that .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Was there any more about having to pay the legal fees for the arbitration panel and the likes of Dundee United etc? Will certainly be a lot more than £2500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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