Accies Away on the Telly

[geecee]

This kind of reinforces my non understanding of why we always shoot away from our fans in the 2nd half at Firhill.  It's surely a no brainer to shoot towards the atmosphere end in the 2nd half. Also our subs warm up on what is pretty much a building site on their own at the city end while the opposing subs get a cheer from their fans in the Colin Weir. And during the pre match warm up our team are as far away from the fans as possible    Not overly important but just never understand it. 

[dl1971]

3 minutes ago, geecee said:

This kind of reinforces my non understanding of why we always shoot away from our fans in the 2nd half at Firhill.  It's surely a no brainer to shoot towards the atmosphere end in the 2nd half. Also our subs warm up on what is pretty much a building site on their own at the city end while the opposing subs get a cheer from their fans in the Colin Weir. And during the pre match warm up our team are as far away from the fans as possible    Not overly important but just never understand it. 

I've never understood it either. Be good to know why we do it. Never used to be the case. 

[Auld Jag]

Well done to the management, players and all fans who turned up in very dangerous conditions. -8.3C by the end of the game. I have said in previous posts that Stanway must be disappointed not to have carried on from last season, when he had more than 30 appearances for Thistle, although the sending off at Falkirk did not help him. A great winning goal and a great reaction from the team after a very poor performance last week.

Edited Friday at 10:43 PM by Auld Jag

[partickthedog]

What a goal, Ben Stanway! I was right behind the line of the shot. In all the way.

Great to see someone who cares so much. Brilliant celebration as well.

Far and away the moment of the season.

[belfastjag]

1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said:

Stanway. Exactly who you want when a goal down. 

You weren't the only one to think this. I was looking for Fitzpatrick and Lawless.  Lovely goal.

[partickthedog]

4 minutes ago, dl1971 said:

I've never understood it either. Be good to know why we do it. Never used to be the case. 

I think it stems from the first game of the 2012-2013 league season when the then North Stand for enthusiastic fans experiment was launched. Lawless and Doolan scored in  the first 10 or so minutes, and that seemed to start a trend of always shooting that way.

I would far prefer if we shot towards the John Lambie in the second half. Most games tend to open up and have more action in the second half, giving more opportunity for the fans to be involved supporting the team and putting pressure on the opposition.

[Duke Gekantawa]

1 minute ago, partickthedog said:

I think it stems from the first game of the 2012-2013 league season when the then North Stand for enthusiastic fans experiment was launched. Lawless and Doolan scored in  the first 10 or so minutes, and that seemed to start a trend of always shooting that way.

I would far prefer if we shot towards the John Lambie in the second half. Most games tend to open up and have more action in the second half, giving more opportunity for the fans to be involved supporting the team and putting pressure on the opposition.

Caldwell swapped it round for a while. It didn’t help, though that was largely due to other factors.

[Albert's Ghost]

6 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said:

largely due to other factors.

Nicely put.

[Jaggernaut]

1 hour ago, stuart_adam said:

Think tonight just furthers my belief that when they are fit Stanway, Lyon and MacKenzie need to be in and about the starting line up. Too many pretenders in this team.

 

Fair play to Stanway and Fitzy for changing this game.

Old pretenders at that.

Let's see more of our young pretenders!

[Jaggernaut]

1 hour ago, Fearchar said:

A lucky win in the end.

Unlike another fan on here, judging from the TV picture IMHO the Accies' top was bowfin'. Ours was ace, though.

Just saw a photo: I like that Accies top. Maybe it's not to the taste of some folk who don't like mustard, which I love!

[Jaggernaut]

27 minutes ago, dl1971 said:

I've never understood it either. Be good to know why we do it. Never used to be the case. 

It would be interesting to know how many first- and second-half goals we've scored at each end of Firhill over the past several seasons (or whenever this superstitious starting the match facing the north end started).

[jaggy]

12 minutes ago, partickthedog said:

I think it stems from the first game of the 2012-2013 league season when the then North Stand for enthusiastic fans experiment was launched. Lawless and Doolan scored in  the first 10 or so minutes, and that seemed to start a trend of always shooting that way.

I would far prefer if we shot towards the John Lambie in the second half. Most games tend to open up and have more action in the second half, giving more opportunity for the fans to be involved supporting the team and putting pressure on the opposition.

I think it’s a lot longer than that. Certainly goes back to the late 70’s or early 80’s when the fence went up in the Shed and the City End become our home end. We tended to shoot that way in the 2nd half. It might even have been earlier. 
 

As mentioned by the Duke, Caldwell tried swapping (and the dugouts) which might have continued if we’d been successful under him. 
 

I sit in the City End of the JH as do a large majority & would have no problem with swapping but it would probably mean a lot of people changing seats to go nearer the JL for it to succeed. Many have probably sat in the same seat since the JH opened so may be reluctant to move. 

[partickthedog]

Ben Stanway also wins best JagZone interview of the season as well. I love his attitude.

[Jaggernaut]

Great result in the end. My relatives who were watching on tv and chatting on WhatsApp were emphasizing our walking-paced, sideways and backwards passing, leading to absolutely no openings and combined with a lack of movement up front. 

Judging from many of the comments on this thread, many if not most other people see these issues clearly.

So why doesn't Doolan?

PS: They also said that Graham was honking: terrible ball control, terrible passing, too slow. We need to be lucky that he actually gets one tap-in on target per game.

[Jimmy McD]

Goal of the season, Ben Stanway, got to get a regular start...

[Lambies Lost Doo]

3 hours ago, redandyellowallover said:

Well technically the people of Minnesota and Detroit don't as their stadiums are indoor but your point is a good one nonetheless 😜

I watched NY Jets on Thanksgiving Day at Metlife Sradium.  Built on Meadowlands Swamp.  Freezing late November.   It has no roof and parts of concourse are open to the elements with wind cutting you in half.  Bonkers design.  THAT needed a roof. 

[laukat]

We weren't great tonight but nice to come from behind and win a game particularly with the amount of bell-ends Hamilton have in their 'young team'.

Whilst I absolutely agree with dropping Fitzpatrick, playing O'Reilly and Robinson out of position on the left wing just meant any crosses from that side were a waste of time. In fairness to Fitzpatrick first chance he gets to put a ball on creates a goal but I would have preferred we had started Lawless rather than play Robinson as a winger.

As others have said too many side ways passes in midfield. I don't think any of the midfield has a shot from the edge of the box. Stanway got his reward for giving it a go and you could see as soon as he he connected that it was a goal all the way. Not sure he will hit a better one and he's still very young.

We were pretty poor for 75 minutes and up until the subs it looked very much like the end for Doolan. Hopefully the manner of the win can spark something in a team that's forgotten how to attack.

[sandy]

9 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said:

Caldwell swapped it round for a while. It didn’t help, though that was largely due to other factors.

The only thing Caldwell swapped successfully was the order of his PowerPoint slides at his interview

[scotty]

9 hours ago, jaggy said:

As mentioned by the Duke, Caldwell tried swapping (and the dugouts) which might have continued if we’d been successful under him.

This is something I think about now and again. Is there no way the dugouts could be moved so that they straddle the half-way line? It's not as though the teams come out the exit between them.

[JAG1970]

9 hours ago, laukat said:

We were pretty poor for 75 minutes and up until the subs it looked very much like the end for Doolan. Hopefully the manner of the win can spark something in a team that's forgotten how to attack.

Exactly, coming back late to win the game shouldn’t obscure the first 75 mins was another poor showing - although I’d make an allowance for that surface which as Mitchell mentioned was dangerous in parts. 
Hamilton were no doubt desperate to play us eyeing a win given our recent form, fair play to Doolan and the players for finding a way to win it. Hopefully it spurs us on but the same issues remain. 

[jagfox]

First time we've won from being behind in quite a while. Players had a good attitude and wouldn't suggest any major issues in the dressing room.

I was particularly pleased for Ben and Aidan, both having a big impact on the game. 

If we can sort out the middle of the park we can maybe keep looking up the way.

Hopefully the break will help with getting some players back up to speed. I was disappointed with Megwa and Crawford but then Doolan reacted by subbing them with the lads who helped win us the match. It's a funny old game...

[Duke Gekantawa]

While certainly not definitive one way or the other, if you look where Graham’s feet and the leftmost defender’s foot are in relation to the 6 yard line, it’s clear to me that this is marginal and Graham may well be onside

ETA- this was captured and zoomed by me from the BBC freeze frame at the time Fitz crosses the ball.

[JAG1970]

15 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said:

 

While certainly not definitive one way or the other, if you look where Graham’s feet and the leftmost defender’s foot are in relation to the 6 yard line, it’s clear to me that this is marginal and Graham may well be onside

ETA- this was captured and zoomed by me from the BBC freeze frame at the time Fitz crosses the ball.

BBG has had a few incorrectly disallowed so he deserves any break here 👍

[lady-isobel-barnett]

13 hours ago, partickthedog said:

Totally agree with that last sentence. When there is an open space in front of you, drive forward into it, commit some opponents and maybe there will be the opportunity to shoot or play a killer pass. Why go sideways? Dan is doing his best but he is not a winger. We have 3 of them on the bench.

I always look to comments from posters who are at the game and value their opinions ahead of those who watch on TV/Stream etc. So above points taken.

But what amazes me, partickthedog, is how when the temperature was minus 6C did you manage to get your fingers to work on your keypad? 🙂

[jagfox]

10 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:

I always look to comments from posters who are at the game and value their opinions ahead of those who watch on TV/Stream etc

Why?