jaggy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: BBG has had a few incorrectly disallowed so he deserves any break here 👍 Exactly, including at least 1 at Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, jagfox said: Why? More a generalisation re overall play and individual performances. Tho' obviously TV viewers are at an advantage re contentious refereeing decisions etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Ben Stanway btw. Some boi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 The young teams were out in force last night and the behaviour is escalating back towards the 'casuals' of the early 80s. Its not going to be long before someone gets seriously hurt and my money is on some supporter who is in no way connected to these groups. Getting kept inside a freezing stadium for 10 minutes post final whistle because the Police reckon there's going to be problems is 2 arse cheek levels of behaviour and the last thing we want to be is a tribute act to their Neanderthal's There was a bit of a set to just as we got through the turnstiles. I then overheard a conversation were Manpreet was largely saying Hamilton young team wanted to meet for a square go and he talked as if somehow he had done the right thing by only giving them limited information but then giving them a fight when they approached pre-game. The boy obviously enjoys his 'celebrity fan' tag and needs to either set a better example to his disciples or keep a low profile for a good while. Our 'young team' need to can this behaviour. Best way of not engaging with other young teams is just not to respond on social media. Too many kids these days forget you don't have to answer folk just because they taunt you on facebook, instagram etc. They put a block button in those apps for a reason. Also going to games dressed the same (black jackets, black trousers, snoods) has been done before. Its not clever, not retro, you're not ultras, you're not hard and you look like a whalloper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 13 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Just saw a photo: I like that Accies top. Maybe it's not to the taste of some folk who don't like mustard, which I love! Proper yellow is better. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I’m not in favour of casuals, I’m too old for all that nonsense. But Manpreet has energy that needs channelled positively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellowallover Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 13 hours ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: I watched NY Jets on Thanksgiving Day at Metlife Sradium. Built on Meadowlands Swamp. Freezing late November. It has no roof and parts of concourse are open to the elements with wind cutting you in half. Bonkers design. THAT needed a roof. I get the drive to keep the sport an outdoor one, and they generally seem to love their snow games but the decision to build a new stadium in Buffalo that doesn't have a roof is bizarre to me. They must feel it gives them an advantage, especially when it comes to playoff time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said: While certainly not definitive one way or the other, if you look where Graham’s feet and the leftmost defender’s foot are in relation to the 6 yard line, it’s clear to me that this is marginal and Graham may well be onside ETA- this was captured and zoomed by me from the BBC freeze frame at the time Fitz crosses the ball. Thought the same, after initially thinking it was offside. Could easily be on and a great decision from the linesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago1953 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Who is Manpreet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 29 minutes ago, Jago1953 said: Who is Manpreet ? Red Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 53 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Red Monkey Sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I always look to comments from posters who are at the game and value their opinions ahead of those who watch on TV/Stream etc. So above points taken. But what amazes me, partickthedog, is how when the temperature was minus 6C did you manage to get your fingers to work on your keypad? 🙂 Managed a couple of quick posts and then it was gloves back on in a hurry! Still don't think it was as cold as that night in Alloa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, jaggy said: Exactly, including at least 1 at Hamilton I particularly remember the penultimate game of the league 2 years ago. Stevie Lawless had just equalised to make it 2-2. Graham "scored" in the last minute, but it was incorrectly disallowed for offside. If it had been given and other results remained as they were, we would have finished second in the league, and perhaps been better placed for the play offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, sandy said: I’m not in favour of casuals, I’m too old for all that nonsense. But Manpreet has energy that needs channelled positively. Get him to paint the stadium and clear out the toon end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 10:38 PM, dl1971 said: I've never understood it either. Be good to know why we do it. Never used to be the case. Usually in the end decisions boil down to money. Who is paying the piper. Could it be that "Corporate hospitality" calls the tune. If you pay extra to visit a match and fund the club you might expect the best view or perspective. Just like the box at the theatre. They wouldn't stick corporate anywhere with a more restricted view and the club are hoping those customers get the big finale Edited January 12 by topcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I find keyboard warriors that lead into pavement dancers change their ways when they get a swift punch on the jaw. No need for fights around football for any reason at any club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1876 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 On 1/11/2025 at 11:38 AM, laukat said: The young teams were out in force last night and the behaviour is escalating back towards the 'casuals' of the early 80s. Its not going to be long before someone gets seriously hurt and my money is on some supporter who is in no way connected to these groups. Getting kept inside a freezing stadium for 10 minutes post final whistle because the Police reckon there's going to be problems is 2 arse cheek levels of behaviour and the last thing we want to be is a tribute act to their Neanderthal's There was a bit of a set to just as we got through the turnstiles. I then overheard a conversation were Manpreet was largely saying Hamilton young team wanted to meet for a square go and he talked as if somehow he had done the right thing by only giving them limited information but then giving them a fight when they approached pre-game. The boy obviously enjoys his 'celebrity fan' tag and needs to either set a better example to his disciples or keep a low profile for a good while. Our 'young team' need to can this behaviour. Best way of not engaging with other young teams is just not to respond on social media. Too many kids these days forget you don't have to answer folk just because they taunt you on facebook, instagram etc. They put a block button in those apps for a reason. Also going to games dressed the same (black jackets, black trousers, snoods) has been done before. Its not clever, not retro, you're not ultras, you're not hard and you look like a whalloper. Sorry mate you've got it all absolutely wrong. The young team have been attacked twice by falkirk. I think 3 times by the accies and once by livi. .. Not once have they started any fights What would you suggest they do to defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, 1876 said: Sorry mate you've got it all absolutely wrong. The young team have been attacked twice by falkirk. I think 3 times by the accies and once by livi. .. Not once have they started any fights What would you suggest they do to defend themselves. 3 comments on the above. I dislike calling them the "Thistle young team" as that almost implies acceptance. Groups who fight at or around football games are idiots no matter their age or intention. I really dislike that my kids safety is been put at risk so a group can call themselves 'ultras' no matter who they proclaim to support. I haven't said that our mob have started anything just that behaviour is escalating and someone is going to get hurt. Witnessed at Livingston one bystander getting punched and another local resident getting their car damaged so it won't be long before someone is severely hurt. I notice you have made no suggestions on how to de-escalate before it gets to that point. My original post gave some suggestions on how that can be done. Please feel free to add your own but don't excuse the problem by trying to say its ok because the other mob started it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, laukat said: 3 comments on the above. I dislike calling them the "Thistle young team" as that almost implies acceptance. Groups who fight at or around football games are idiots no matter their age or intention. I really dislike that my kids safety is been put at risk so a group can call themselves 'ultras' no matter who they proclaim to support. I haven't said that our mob have started anything just that behaviour is escalating and someone is going to get hurt. Witnessed at Livingston one bystander getting punched and another local resident getting their car damaged so it won't be long before someone is severely hurt. I notice you have made no suggestions on how to de-escalate before it gets to that point. My original post gave some suggestions on how that can be done. Please feel free to add your own but don't excuse the problem by trying to say its ok because the other mob started it. Not expressing a view but simply reporting facts. On the way out of the Livingston away game I unwittingly found myself caught in the crossfire between the two rival "fan groups". On a dark night in an unfamiliar place, with people suddenly rushing around in all directions shouting and waving flag poles and other implements, and letting off exploding items, it can be somewhat disorientating. Thankfully I recalled my similar experience of 40 years ago on night exercise with the army cadets while regular soldiers threw thunder-flashes in our general direction, so was able to stay calm and use battlecraft knowledge to manoeuvre to a safe location. However, I can see that many would have been frightened or could have reacted in unpredictable ways with possible consequences I would not like to contemplate. Some might have been put off attending or bringing young or old family members to away games, especially in the evening. However blame is apportioned, this should have nothing to do with attending a football match. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 17 hours ago, partickthedog said: Not expressing a view but simply reporting facts. On the way out of the Livingston away game I unwittingly found myself caught in the crossfire between the two rival "fan groups". On a dark night in an unfamiliar place, with people suddenly rushing around in all directions shouting and waving flag poles and other implements, and letting off exploding items, it can be somewhat disorientating. Thankfully I recalled my similar experience of 40 years ago on night exercise with the army cadets while regular soldiers threw thunder-flashes in our general direction, so was able to stay calm and use battlecraft knowledge to manoeuvre to a safe location. However, I can see that many would have been frightened or could have reacted in unpredictable ways with possible consequences I would not like to contemplate. Some might have been put off attending or bringing young or old family members to away games, especially in the evening. However blame is apportioned, this should have nothing to do with attending a football match. Agree. The younger generation (don't like the name ultras) bring a great atmosphere that will encourage and motivate the team. The hooligan element is a negative for the club, that could bring fines, increased stewarding and policing costs. Nobody wants a return of the casuals. Over 50 years ago i was in the ATC (Air Training Corp). our activities included going to Turnhouse for flights in Chipmunks and Gliders. Your experience in the army cadets doesn't sound as enjoyable. Edited January 13 by Auld Jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 16 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Agree. The younger generation (don't like the name ultras) bring a great atmosphere that will encourage and motivate the team. The hooligan element is a negative for the club, that could bring fines, increased stewarding and policing costs. Nobody wants a return of the casuals. Over 50 years ago i was in the ATC (Air Training Corp). our activities included going to Turnhouse for flights in Chipmunks and Gliders. Your experience in the army cadets doesn't sound as enjoyable. As we used to say at Lyneham, the military operates by stars. Army sleeps under them Navy navigates by them. The Air Force books it’s hotels based on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Agree. The younger generation (don't like the name ultras) bring a great atmosphere that will encourage and motivate the team. The hooligan element is a negative for the club, that could bring fines, increased stewarding and policing costs. Nobody wants a return of the casuals. Over 50 years ago i was in the ATC (Air Training Corp). our activities included going to Turnhouse for flights in Chipmunks and Gliders. Your experience in the army cadets doesn't sound as enjoyable. There were some good parts. My main football-related memory is watching regular soldiers playing table football in the NAAFI. If the ball went behind the front 3 players connected by the iron bar, one of the outside players could flick the ball up in the air for a spinning wrist to propel the centre forward into an overhead kick straight into the goal and down the hole at the back (reminiscent of Graham Dorrans' consolation goal against Peterhead in 2005). Apologies for thread diversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 Thoroughly enjoyed getting a victory against that lot on Friday night, the last 15 minutes or so fair warmed things up a bit. It was, however, another disappointing performance until then - albeit in very difficult conditions. We were obviously very fortunate at the equalising goal - did the linesman save Doolan his job? Brilliant finish from Ben Stanway for the winner. Really pleased for him, it's been a difficult season for him so far. Not a fan of the O'Reilly experiment at left back. Dan is one of my favourite players, but he isn't a full back. Can't help thinking Charlie Sayers has become a bit of a scapegoat. Yes, he's not been great but I don't think he's been as bad as to warrant his early substitutions and being left out the starting 11, especially when he's not being replaced by a full back. O'Reilly didn't put in one decent cross all game, and had plenty opportunities. Why give Sayers a 3 year deal, if they don't think he's a decent back up to Milne? Anyway, Dools lives to fight another day. Let's see what the next few fixtures bring. Hopefully some decent football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 20 hours ago, partickthedog said: There were some good parts. My main football-related memory is watching regular soldiers playing table football in the NAAFI. If the ball went behind the front 3 players connected by the iron bar, one of the outside players could flick the ball up in the air for a spinning wrist to propel the centre forward into an overhead kick straight into the goal and down the hole at the back (reminiscent of Graham Dorrans' consolation goal against Peterhead in 2005). Apologies for thread diversion. Apology accepted. No other forum member would diversify from original thread subject. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Congratulations to BRIAN GRAHAM who is now just the 12th Jag in history to hit the 100 goals mark in 'All Games'... one of only 2 to do so in the last 50 years... 100 and counting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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