Third Lanark Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Yes. Very disappointed with the recruitment so far. This is not my usual go at McCall, but he hasn't performed great here. Unless....we are utterly rooked and he has been told to grab whatever he can that might fit a Thistle Jersey. I actually think the club might be totally rooked given some of the rumours going about not having any money to spend on the main stand etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Completely agree, do think today was a bit strange this transfer window- I was expecting more in “ we’re actively looking to bring on one more player, maybe with one leaving" No loan fee involved as Dundee seal Zak Rudden move, reveals Ian McCall | Glasgow Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: I actually think the club might be totally rooked given some of the rumours going about not having any money to spend on the main stand etc I suspect the amount of money required to fix up or replace the main stand will be huge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: I suspect the amount of money required to fix up or replace the main stand will be huge There’s a rumour that they didn’t even have enough money to fix the Colin Weir sign on it - but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: At least we didn't sign Goodwillie. Raith Rovers have! No matter how bummed we are with transfer window at least we did not do this. A PR disaster for them too if you see their chief sponsor Val Mcdermid’s post regards the matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, elevenone said: No matter how bummed we are with transfer window at least we did not do this. A PR disaster for them too if you see their chief sponsor Val Mcdermid’s post regards the matter. Indeed. I moan like hell about McCall, but my rage and disgust would be off the scale if we had signed Goodwillie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 I hope Jakubiak has a relegation clause in the extension he's just signed with the Dees. Two things that would give me more pleasure than us getting promoted would be doing so at the expense of Dundee, and the icing on the cake taking one of "their players" with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Indeed. I moan like hell about McCall, but my rage and disgust would be off the scale if we had signed Goodwillie. Exactly Clyde fans greeting because this Clyde “legend” has left them - beggars belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Exactly Clyde fans greeting because this Clyde “legend” has left them - beggars belief We are talking about Clyde FC here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Exactly Clyde fans greeting because this Clyde “legend” has left them - beggars belief Aye, and to think they've just got over the trauma of losing Alan Lithgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Aye, and to think they've just got over the trauma of losing Alan Lithgow Fear not as they still have their racist Ally Love to adorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, elevenone said: No matter how bummed we are with transfer window at least we did not do this. A PR disaster for them too if you see their chief sponsor Val Mcdermid’s post regards the matter. Val McDermid ends Raith Rovers support over David Goodwillie deal - BBC News Just reading one of her books too.... No messing about from her today... wonder if she can adopt the Jags.... Edited February 1, 2022 by JAG1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: Val McDermid ends Raith Rovers support over David Goodwillie deal - BBC News Just reading one of her books too.... No messing about from her today... wonder if she can adopt the Jags.... The captain of their woman's team with 10 years at club and liaison officer have also called it a day at Raith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 The Raith board somehow managing to make Boris Johnson look like a management genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Regarding the Rudden transfer, if we aren’t getting a transfer/loan fee and the valuation between the clubs was way off, why didn’t we just tell Dundee to beat it, we keep Rudden til the summer then they can have him. Why did we just swap players to give Dundee a better chance of staying up and us less chance of making top 4, especially after all the vote nonsense? McCall has said himself he hasn’t seen Jakubiak play for Dundee so why is taking him and giving them one of our better players? Am I missing something here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, jags on tour said: Regarding the Rudden transfer, if we aren’t getting a transfer/loan fee and the valuation between the clubs was way off, why didn’t we just tell Dundee to beat it, we keep Rudden til the summer then they can have him. Why did we just swap players to give Dundee a better chance of staying up and us less chance of making top 4, especially after all the vote nonsense? McCall has said himself he hasn’t seen Jakubiak play for Dundee so why is taking him and giving them one of our better players? Am I missing something here? Basically Rudden said he wanted to move now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, jags on tour said: Regarding the Rudden transfer, if we aren’t getting a transfer/loan fee and the valuation between the clubs was way off, why didn’t we just tell Dundee to beat it, we keep Rudden til the summer then they can have him. Why did we just swap players to give Dundee a better chance of staying up and us less chance of making top 4, especially after all the vote nonsense? McCall has said himself he hasn’t seen Jakubiak play for Dundee so why is taking him and giving them one of our better players? Am I missing something here? 100% correct , if no fee could have been agreed then Zak should have stayed to help us get promotion. Dundee have got the best of both worlds , didn’t want to pay the fee but have still got the player in a convoluted loan deal . We should have stuck to our guns similar to the John Soutar scenario at Hearts . After the way Dundee shafted us in the “ missing vote “ why on earth would you do them any favours at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Basically Rudden said he wanted to move now Tough luck , he was under contract to PTFC till the end of the season. Zak Rudden isn’t bigger than our Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Completely agree with many of the statements. Regardless of whether he moved now or in the summer, we were still due compensation. Just goes to show what a tinpot small-fry club we are at times. "What's that Dundee, want to low ball us with a Liam Lindsay like offer? I think not. Why don't you have him for free on loan, and you give us one of your diddies! Haha! Gotcha!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Tough luck , he was under contract to PTFC till the end of the season. Zak Rudden isn’t bigger than our Club If Rudden didn’t want to play he would have been a liability. We will still get compensation settled by a tribunal. He was under 23 and had been offered a contact, so the training fee is mandatory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, jlsarmy said: Tough luck , he was under contract to PTFC till the end of the season. Zak Rudden isn’t bigger than our Club No he isn't, but as I said before I'd rather have a player with something to prove than one going thru the motions. The comeback to that I suppose is a reference to Chris Erskine but I consider him exceptionally loyal to the Jags cause. Also Rudden looks to me to be a player particularly dependent on confidence. Unless he got off to a flyer he may have found it difficult to get the fans behind him. Gotta say I'd have preferred it if Jakubiak wasn't contracted to Dundee next season. On balance tho' I think we've made the right move tho' it's annoying that of all clubs Dundee appear to have got off lightly moneywise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yellow & Redneck said: Completely agree with many of the statements. Regardless of whether he moved now or in the summer, we were still due compensation. Just goes to show what a tinpot small-fry club we are at times. "What's that Dundee, want to low ball us with a Liam Lindsay like offer? I think not. Why don't you have him for free on loan, and you give us one of your diddies! Haha! Gotcha!" Correct , McCall played the transfer game , lots of clubs interested etc , not any suitable bids yet and then we let Zak go in a loan deal to a team he’s already signed a pre contact for ! You couldn’t make it up Ian McCall and PTFC have a lot to answer for, if we had recruited properly and after watching the other teams we had a great chance of promotion, possibly only Kilmarnock after signing Kyle Lafferty had a better chance . I’m not sure about our chances now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: No he isn't, but as I said before I'd rather have a player with something to prove than one going thru the motions. The comeback to that I suppose is a reference to Chris Erskine but I consider him exceptionally loyal to the Jags cause. Also Rudden looks to me to be a player particularly dependent on confidence. Unless he got off to a flyer he may have found it difficult to get the fans behind him. Gotta say I'd have preferred it if Jakubiak wasn't contracted to Dundee next season. On balance tho' I think we've made the right move tho' it's annoying that of all clubs Dundee appear to have got off lightly moneywise. Not sure that would have happened, we’re doubting Zak’s professionalism and I’m sure guys like Ross Docherty and Brian Graham would have had a say on that on and off the park . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 I agree with all of the statements on this thread about Rudden. We could, perhaps should, have told Dundee that if they are not prepared to meet our valuation then we will keep Rudden until his contract expires in June. Rudden wouldn't have liked that but that's just tough. If subsequently he didn't show the level of commitment expected and which he has shown in the past, then I would have him nowhere near the first team squad, However, and there is slways an however, I have been really impressed by the team spirit IMC has created at Firhill. It's obvious when we score a goal that the team congratulates everybody involved not just the player who provided the assist. This team spirit will see us through, and has seen us through, difficult moments on the field. IMC has to take this into account in deciding whether or not to keep Rudden. A disgruntled employee can cause a lot of problems and be divisive. Perhaps to the point of eroding our team spirit! Probably better to let him go. My last however! Should Dundee be relegated and the Jags promoted I hope there is no road back to Firhill for Rudden. He has made his bed so now he lies in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: If Rudden didn’t want to play he would have been a liability. We will still get compensation settled by a tribunal. He was under 23 and had been offered a contact, so the training fee is mandatory. He didn’t say he didn’t want to play but similar to Soutar at Hearts he would have preferred if the deal was done now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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