Lambies Lost Doo Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 If everyone is fit. 4-3-3 I do struggle with our full backs though. Who is best for position and even what side they play on. Sneddon Foster Akinola Mayo Holt Turner Docherty Bannigan Rudden Graham Tiffoney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Not the least bit confident about tomorrow, Above is probably our strongest starting XI and possibly all could be available to start. Problem being the sum of the parts way exceeds the whole. Two upfront doesn't work with such a misshapen midfield. 4-3-3 is equally dodgy without attacking fullbacks, especially on a wide pitch. Best hope is that more of these long punts from Sneddon & Co somehow find a forward and we score. Of course alternatively we could try passing the ball out from the back and utilising the midfield. But that involves playing as a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 i appreciate that the state of the pitch makes free flowing football difficult but we do seem to be resorting to (ineffective) long balls up field bypassing the midfield more and more recently and not just at home. with the midfield players we have we should be pass out from the back more as whenever we do we look so much better. Do you think this is a deliberate tactic from McCall as if it is its not working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, jaggymct said: i appreciate that the state of the pitch makes free flowing football difficult but we do seem to be resorting to (ineffective) long balls up field bypassing the midfield more and more recently and not just at home. with the midfield players we have we should be pass out from the back more as whenever we do we look so much better. Do you think this is a deliberate tactic from McCall as if it is its not working... Appears to be. We were booting it up the park before Smith went off last week so it wasn't to with personnel. Could be almost a chicken and egg situation in so much as McCall doesn't expect/want his fullbacks crossing the halfway line. When playing the ball out from the back you expect the fullbacks to get forward to provide additional options. Whatever, when Sneddon (or a defender) has control of the ball any movement in defence and/or central mid is so lethargic the big punt becomes inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Its really terrible to watch as well as being ineffective 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 To my mind the fullbacks now getting forward/overlapping is another consuequence of not having a genuine winger other than Tiffoney. McCall has always said he wanted invered wingers and the main reason for inverted wingers is to give space for overlapping fullbacks. At the moment we have no-one left footed who can play on the right wing. That leads to us playing Turner, Murray or Smith who are all right footed and don't really want to run at defenders. Foster can't really get forward but also needs to hang back a little as he knows if the opposition break he is covering the right flank all by himself. On the left wing Holt and Tiffoney should work but as we don't any threat on the right the opposition can put another player on the left and strangle any space. Depserately need a left footed winger in January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Think we took 15 points from the first quarter and going into tomorrows final game of the second quarter we have added just 13 points, if my fingers are working. A win against a strongly performing Raith Rovers would see us marginally improve on that first quarter tally and give us a boost after last week's lame performance. Draw or defeat would confirm we're treading water in 5th position until the transfer window opens when we need to attract some more quality middle to front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Your maths is right. I'd take a 0-0 draw now. I think this could be a difficult weekend if McCall doesn't change something in the tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 If we lose again, some of the players are simply not good enough and need cleared out in January if possible. Foster, the 3 mids, Smith and Graham need to pull their fingers out. As do any subs used who have not exactly been knocking the barn door down. They need to come up to the mark. Big games required by all to show that last week was a mere aberration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said: If we lose again, some of the players are simply not good enough and need cleared out in January if possible. Foster, the 3 mids, Smith and Graham need to pull their fingers out. As do any subs used who have not exactly been knocking the barn door down. They need to come up to the mark. Big games required by all to show that last week was a mere aberration. I am far from convince that it is the individual players that are the problem, especially with midfield to attack. I'm sure a clear out is needed, but possibly not the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: If we lose again, some of the players are simply not good enough and need cleared out in January if possible. So if we don't lose they are good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 We're a rudderless mess at the moment against anyone half decent. Can't see me going tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, thebiglemon said: We're a rudderless mess at the moment against anyone half decent. Can't see me going tomorrow. I can't see you going either. But I can see me going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) I was confident heading into last week but we were brought back down to Earth with a bump, we've not done well against Arbroath or or Raith recently so I'm not expecting anything from tomorrow, I expect Zannatta to score and another 2-0 or 2-1. My team would be Sneddon Mckenna Akinola Mayo Holt Hastie Doch Banzo Tiff Rudden Graham No point in having Hastie and not giving him a try from the start, he should give us a bit of width and maybe make them think more about his pace in behind, We've tried Smith and Turner and it's not really worked, I know Hastie hasn't set the heather on fire but he's never had a chance from the start. Come on Jags, give us a bit ox Xmas cheer! Edited December 17, 2021 by jags on tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) Can’t believe some of the rubbish being posted on here. We kept 8 clean sheets in a row. One bad result and our whole team is rubbish. The manager has to go, the 2 centre mids need to go. Our top scorer needs to pull his finger out etc.. absolute garbage If you can’t handle a bad result now and again go and support one of the old firm Edited December 17, 2021 by p12tfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 clean sheets, but at least 5 of the games were very poor performances. It is not just about results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, p12tfc said: Can’t believe some of the rubbish being posted on here. We kept 8 clean sheets in a row. One bad result and our whole team is rubbish. The manager has to go, the 2 centre mids need to go. Our top scorer needs to pull his finger out etc.. absolute garbage If you can’t handle a bad result now and again go and support one of the old firm It's not the results that are the concern Dunfermline 0-0 Hamilton 1-0 Inverness 0-0 Arbroath 0-2 We were terrible in all these games and we lost only one. And these were just the ones I went to. Morton and QOS away sounded little better. Ayr made us look good but they are woefully weak. Just saying. I have followed Thistle 50 years and always will but sometimes you just have can't be arsed. Me. Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) I have no faith that McCall will pick a team capable of beating Raith. McGlynn is a better manager. Sorry, but I’m prepared to be proved wrong. Edited December 18, 2021 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, p12tfc said: Can’t believe some of the rubbish being posted on here. We kept 8 clean sheets in a row. One bad result and our whole team is rubbish. The manager has to go, the 2 centre mids need to go. Our top scorer needs to pull his finger out etc.. absolute garbage If you can’t handle a bad result now and again go and support one of the old firm As someone who has only missed one game I C T, away ,this season you are for getting in our run of 8 clean sheets we had 4 horrendous 0.0. draws. they were not very easy on the eye to watch. Since the great night at Hamilton we have only scored more than 1 goal in a game V Ayr away...In the cold light of day we have not been that great.................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) It must be because I am a very simple person but I always go with when we win it is because we deserved to and when we lose it because we deserve to - no caveats about performances, etc because over a season there will be periods when the team plays really well and other times when it struggles, that is why we play over a season and have a league table. I suppose these old fashioned ideas are not in keeping with the modern social media driven world where the people who post have never lost a game. Edited December 17, 2021 by Fawlty Towers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Whoever plays, we'd better get a win and get back into the top 4, pronto. Why? Because there's every chance that the season will get cut short within the next couple of weeks, with teams ending up where they currently are. And even if that does happen, play-offs might well get cancelled, and only the automatic relegation and promotion places will stand. Another reason why last week's debacle might haunt us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anniesland Jag Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Would take a point now and hope Zanatta has an off day …can only hope it’s something about the Firhill air that turns him into a walloper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 I would go with a 4-2-1-3 Sneddon Foster,Akinola,Mayo,Holt Bannigan,Docherty Turner Smith, Tiffoney,Rudden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: 8 clean sheets, but at least 5 of the games were very poor performances. It is not just about results. It is completely about results. Would you take 36 dire 1-0 wins? Of course you would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Anniesland Jag said: Would take a point now and hope Zanatta has an off day …can only hope it’s something about the Firhill air that turns him into a walloper. I remember his first game for us. Although we lost 3-2 at home to Ayr he had a really good debut and looked like a good signing. Rapidly downhill after that for us and also did next to nothing when he went to Ayr. Once again Raith Rovers get the best out of a player that Thistle and some other teams couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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