Westend Jag Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Or Archie is just trying to push the Jan price up on him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Totally accept we are a selling club. Our priority though is to stay in the league and we can't risk that. Every club in Scotland is a selling club as is every club in Holland, Portugal , Sweden etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Archie isn't daft though. He wouldn't be saying all that on record unless he had already received assurances from the board. Yep. Agreed. I'd certainly like to think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Attention, everyone. We seem to have a rumour. Partick Thistle are ready to raid Rangers for winger Fraser Aird, according to reports elsewhere. Aird has made only four appearances this season – with his last game coming against St Mirren in October. And the Jags are plotting a move for the wideman to increase their chances of making the top six. They’re in ninth right now – four points off the top half. Source: Daily Record (10:38am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Attention, everyone. We seem to have a rumour. Partick Thistle are ready to raid Rangers for winger Fraser Aird, according to reports elsewhere. Aird has made only four appearances this season – with his last game coming against St Mirren in October. And the Jags are plotting a move for the wideman to increase their chances of making the top six. They’re in ninth right now – four points off the top half. Source: Daily Record (10:38am) I can't see why we'd want a guy that hasn't played a full 90 mins in over a year in the league below us. Saw him play for sevco U20s a few months ago and he wasn't exactly over impressive that evening. One of the better players on show but nothing more. Not even sure what his preferred position is these days but I think he's been played at right back most recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I can't see why we'd want a guy that hasn't played a full 90 mins in over a year in the league below us. Saw him play for sevco U20s a few months ago and he wasn't exactly over impressive that evening. One of the better players on show but nothing more. Not even sure what his preferred position is these days but I think he's been played at right back most recently. He's complete dross, and also under contract for another 2 seasons since Rangers hilariously gave him a 5 year contract. I can't see us paying money for him, and the fact that McCoist is the only Rangers manager who's ever given him a run in the team is surely indicative that he's shite. I think/hope we can chalk this one up to lazy journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 He's complete dross, and also under contract for another 2 seasons since Rangers hilariously gave him a 5 year contract. I can't see us paying money for him, and the fact that McCoist is the only Rangers manager who's ever given him a run in the team is surely indicative that he's shite. I think/hope we can chalk this one up to lazy journalism. And unless Rangers pay him off he won't take such a pay cut to come to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Or Archie is just trying to push the Jan price up on him... or he is saying to the board that being in the Premiership next season with probably Rangers and possibly Hibs in the league will be worth a lot more than selling him just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The only Rumours you should listen to; http:// 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 See Erskine is NOT in United team for tonight?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Has he not become a wee bit injury prone since going up there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Has he not become a wee bit injury prone since going up there ? Has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 See Erskine is NOT in United team for tonight?? Both him and MasterPates are on the bench. Good to see Und getting a walloping. 25 to go 1-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Erskine on now, with 18 minutes left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Think Aberdeen would be a great (and well deserved) move for Bannigan. I wouldn't be too keen on losing him during this window though. As others have pointed out, St Mirren fatally suffered (on the pitch) from cashing in on McLean this time last year. Others may disagree but I don't think Bannigan is quite as integral to us as McLean was to St Mirren but nonetheless, I wouldn't want to lose him whilst we're still battling to stay out of the dogfight at the bottom. If we were to cash in this month, rightly or wrongly, £100k is probably the maximum that we could get. Finishing positions in the league increase in £50k increments - is Bannigan's presence in the team going to see us finish two places higher than we would in his absence? If my estimate above is undervalued and Aberdeen were willing to offer more to get him now, it would be a tough decision for Archie and the Board. Not sure from a footballing perspective it would be good for Banzo though I'm sure if he was just looking for a heftier pay packet then Aberdeen would be a good move .Going to Aberdeen playing against the same players he has done for the past 2 seasons is hardly going to make him a better player. I've got no doubt he could easily play at championship level down south with his technique and ability. Once again I'm hugely disappointed we're probably not going to get a transfer fee for someone we've developed for the last 5 years, the board and management have got to get players' contracts sorted out instead of letting players run down their deals, in my opinion Stuart Bannigan is easily in the £500k bracket so some club is going to get an absolute bargain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Not sure from a footballing perspective it would be good for Banzo though I'm sure if he was just looking for a heftier pay packet then Aberdeen would be a good move . Going to Aberdeen playing against the same players he has done for the past 2 seasons is hardly going to make him a better player. I've got no doubt he could easily play at championship level down south with his technique and ability. Once again I'm hugely disappointed we're probably not going to get a transfer fee for someone we've developed for the last 5 years, the board and management have got to get players' contracts sorted out instead of letting players run down their deals, in my opinion Stuart Bannigan is easily in the £500k bracket so some club is going to get an absolute bargain. Contracts are not something the board and management can sort out unilaterally. It takes two to tango and when the other party does not want to sign (perhaps on advice whether good or bad) and prefers to run the deal down, there is not much the club can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Contracts are not something the board and management can sort out unilaterally. It takes two to tango and when the other party does not want to sign (perhaps on advice whether good or bad) and prefers to run the deal down, there is not much the club can do. Pretty sure most people at Firhill knew that Banzo , Higgy , O'donnell ,Erskine, Paton were running down their contracts and that's the difference between ourselves and maybe Hamilton who don't let the players they've developed run down their contracts and get good transfer fees for them which is then reinvested into their Academy or playing budget.This summer we're going to go through the same scenario again with so many players out of contract, how can you build your business/club that way ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Has he? I don't know. That is why I asked. It is maybe just my perception that he has had a few lengthy absences in the past two and a half years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Pretty sure most people at Firhill knew that Banzo , Higgy , O'donnell ,Erskine, Paton were running down their contracts and that's the difference between ourselves and maybe Hamilton who don't let the players they've developed run down their contracts and get good transfer fees for them which is then reinvested into their Academy or playing budget. This summer we're going to go through the same scenario again with so many players out of contract, how can you build your business/club that way ? The only way we could've gone about offering extended contracts would've either been at the expense of not making some other signings or "borrowing" money. The former would've required, to make up the numbers, significant progress from Youth Academy straight to First Team. In fairness to ThistleWeir that would really be asking too much too soon. The latter way would be thinly disguised as speculating to accumulate, not something I believe we should favour. I agree that Accies have cracked it. They're already at a position where their youth players can routinely step up into their first team. As way of an example their current development team is at the top of that league. We're still some way off that kind of conveyor belt supply. Edited January 15, 2016 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The only way we could've gone about offering extended contracts would've either been at the expense of not making some other signings or "borrowing" money. The former would've required, to make up the numbers, significant progress from Youth Academy straight to First Team. In fairness to ThistleWeir that would really be asking too much too soon. The latter way would be thinly disguised as speculating to accumulate, not something I believe we should favour. I agree that Accies have cracked it. They're already at a position where their youth players can routinely step up into their first team. As way of an example their current development team is at the top of that league. We're still some way off that kind of conveyor belt supply. I personally think the problem is how our club is perceived, if you want to pick Hamilton as an example the players there know they've no chance of running down their contracts and surely that philosophy must come from the club. If a player signs a 2 year contract surely you talk to him again after a year to sort things out for the future and if you can't then the club should sell if they can . I'm not advocating that we randomly push players from the Academy into the first team if they're not ready but if we've got some sort of cash flow from transfer fees at least we've got an option where to invest it whether that's the first team or the Academy. Out of all the Premier League teams IMO we are definitely the least effective in dealing with players contracts and this is borne out by the amount of players who have effectively left the club for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Erskine on a pre contract according to the Herald, maybe even sooner. http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/14209136.Partick_Thistle_snap_up_Chris_Erskine_on_pre_contract/?ref=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow. I think this is the first time I've seen the words "agree a fee" associated with us in a buying context. Cue the "Dundee's a shitehole..." bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 he's coming home he's coming home coz dundees a shitehole erskines coming home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Brilliant news. The Bridge is coming home. Now get Dougie Somner!. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Three-year contract! In Archie we trust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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