javeajag Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: I'm not sure why you feel the need to point out that our recruitment last summer was unsuccessful every five minutes or so. Most recognise this, already. However, Scobbie and Jeffries were not pointless signings, they were necessary loan cover for the main CBs. From what I saw of them, they were fine for this role. Player wise, this is far from our worst ever teams. Selectively listing the worst players from most squads will make it look like a horror show. However, (ignoring the new players for now) a squad comprising Doolan, Erskine, Slater, Bannagan, Sneddon, Elliot, Spittal, Penrice (who played a major role in promotion from this level last season), Fitzpatrick, Wilson and McCarthy (and even Keown who played a big role in our top 6 team, suggesting that there is a player there somewhere), should not be bottom of the Championship, and losing touch with a part-time set up. Sorry as it’s more than 5 minutes.... i mentioned because one it was officially confirmed by the club this morning that both are going back so it’s relevant to this thread and two because the sh£t squad Archie assembled is one of the main reasons we are where we are and I’m a bit fed up with the last 18 months of pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: That was actually Britton and whyte who signed him, but your right the subsequent signings by the bunnet with the exception of Roberts) were dreadful beyond belief Guys you are correct. But for some reason I seemed to associate players like him with DC’s time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: Sorry as it’s more than 5 minutes.... i mentioned because one it was officially confirmed by the club this morning that both are going back so it’s relevant to this thread and two because the sh£t squad Archie assembled is one of the main reasons we are where we are and I’m a bit fed up with the last 18 months of pish I think it's safe to say that everyone here is fed up with the last 18 months of pish. We've sacked Archibald. We can't sack him again. I expect a new manager to improve matters. This patently has not happened. We are worse than we were when Archibald was sacked, by every conceivable metric. And although I know you disagree, I do not accept that this squad is anywhere near as bad as you make out. It has, however, been managed poorly (under both managers). The players I have listed are not world beaters. They are not good enough to win promotion (therefore failing in the main aim going into the season). But they absolutely should not be getting cut adrift at the bottom. Edited January 14, 2019 by Duke Gekantawa 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: I think it's safe to say that everyone here is fed up with the last 18 months of pish. We've sacked Archibald. We can't sack him again. I expect a new manager to improve matters. This patently has not happened. We are worse than we were when Archibald was sacked, by every conceivable metric. And although I know you disagree, I do not accept that this squad is anywhere near as bad as you make out. It has, however, been managed poorly (under both managers). The players I have listed are not world beaters. They are not good enough to win promotion (therefore failing in the main aim going into the season). But they absolutely should not be getting cut adrift at the bottom. 100% with you. No one is making excuses for Archibald any more. He managed us poorly last season and he messed up in the summer. It is not an excuse for Caldwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, sandy said: Guys you are correct. But for some reason I seemed to associate players like him with DC’s time. Easy mistake to make considering how awful most were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, sandy said: You forget the dark days of The Bunnet. I give you Stevie Fulton (shudder)..... One of the worst players ever to wear 2 Thistle jerseys! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Ah Steve Fulton. Far from being in my normal nature but I was the whistleblower yon time I saw him and few others sneaking back into Starks Pk after a mid match trip to the bookies and/or pub. Gotta say I handled it wrong and should've contacted the Club in confidence. Apologised to Brown McMaster afterwards but he was fine with it. All this talk of Dick Campbell's time at Firhill is indeed depressing. Ironic tho' to the extreme. If voting for manager of the season was to take place just now I wonder who would be favourite? Edited January 14, 2019 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Ah Steve Fulton. Far from being in my normal nature but I was the whistleblower yon time I saw him and few others sneaking back into Starks Pk after a mid match trip to the bookies and/or pub. Gotta say I handled it wrong and should've contacted the Club in confidence. Apologised to Brown McMaster afterwards but he was fine with it. All this talk of Dick Campbell's time at Firhill is indeed depressing. Ironic tho' to the extreme. If voting for manager of the season was to take place just now I wonder who would be favourite? I was at that game. Wasn’t Fulton hacked off cos he wasn’t selected to play, so decided to hit downtown Kirkcaldy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, sandy said: I was at that game. Wasn’t Fulton hacked off cos he wasn’t selected to play, so decided to hit downtown Kirkcaldy? If memory serves me well (it doesn't usually) the official version was along the lines Jamie Mitchell had something to discuss with SF and Kenny Milne tagged along. So the best place to have this discussion was deemed to be outside the ground. No idea what the parley was about tho' I believe it coincided with the running of the Grand National. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Caldwell is at the Leeds U23 vs Crewe match today apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, jags on tour said: Caldwell is at the Leeds U23 vs Crewe match today apparently. I hope he's looking at a striker who is going to get us 20 goals in the remainder of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: If memory serves me well (it doesn't usually) the official version was along the lines Jamie Mitchell had something to discuss with SF and Kenny Milne tagged along. So the best place to have this discussion was deemed to be outside the ground. No idea what the parley was about tho' I believe it coincided with the running of the Grand National. All three were either not selected or suspended that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: If memory serves me well (it doesn't usually) the official version was along the lines Jamie Mitchell had something to discuss with SF and Kenny Milne tagged along. So the best place to have this discussion was deemed to be outside the ground. No idea what the parley was about tho' I believe it coincided with the running of the Grand National. Andy Dowie. Edited January 14, 2019 by Dark Passenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, jags on tour said: Caldwell is at the Leeds U23 vs Crewe match today apparently. For a job interview hopefully. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: Andy Dowie. Quite right. Thanks, DP. ....and sincere apologies to that model pro, Kenny Milne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Chic Young (Gerry Collins pal) thought it was the wrong decision and went on about it forever. 'nest of vipers' I think was what he called our board at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jaggy said: Chic Young (Gerry Collins pal) thought it was the wrong decision and went on about it forever. 'nest of vipers' I think was what he called our board at the time True, but every Jags fan unanimously concluded that Chic Young was a fud 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Gerry Collins was sacked after 14 league games (no wins- but at a higher level), and I don't remember anyone thinking it the wrong decision. Caldwell's 1 win in 14 surely merits a similar response. Apart form Chic Young of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 23 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: There's a reason Sammon has been punted by every club he's been at in the last five years. He's part of the reason we're in this mess in the first place, so no thanks. Agreed. Sammon- No thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Most people looking at the squads in the Championship would have expected Alloa to be bottom of the league. Although our squad is not the greatest I don't think many would have expected us to be doing so badly. The reason we are doing so badly and Alloa are doing so well is imo quite simple. The managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 6:02 PM, Paukea said: Jim McIntyre has confirmed that we have made an approach for O’dea we Are also looking to bring Connor Sammon back Don't think we will be getting O'Dea. Dundee signed Andrew Davies 4 days ago and he is now out for up to 10 weeks with a broken foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Don't think we will be getting O'Dea. Dundee signed Andrew Davies 4 days ago and he is now out for up to 10 weeks with a broken foot. So I presume we'll be signing Davies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWearsNumber9 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Anyone got any ideas of any transfer rumours at all about who the replacements for Jeffries and Scobbie are? Out with the previously mention Sammon and O’dea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Erskine off to Livingston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, King Kenny said: Erskine off to Livingston. Where is this confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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