lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Contradicting myself re previous post but a reason why a club may be in favour of restarting the league would be in terms of season ticket refunding. In reality many fans wouldn't claim a refund but that's no guarantee. Also a club may feel duty bound to continue if only to give their season ticket holders a fairer return on their outlay. Just now clubs are all liable for refunds running between 59% to 70%. Fair to assume that many if not most clubs will not have the financial reserves to cover. Still sense that time and logistics will be against continuance. If the play offs were scrapped that would mean having a one up one down situation. That in turn would effectively mean more than half the clubs restarting the leagues with nothing positive, only relegation, to play for. Perhaps a compromise of reducing leagues to 18 fixtures with play offs may be discussed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Contradicting myself re previous post but a reason why a club may be in favour of restarting the league would be in terms of season ticket refunding. In reality many fans wouldn't claim a refund but that's no guarantee. Also a club may feel duty bound to continue if only to give their season ticket holders a fairer return on their outlay. Just now clubs are all liable for refunds running between 59% to 70%. Fair to assume that many if not most clubs will not have the financial reserves to cover. Still sense that time and logistics will be against continuance. If the play offs were scrapped that would mean having a one up one down situation. That in turn would effectively mean more than half the clubs restarting the leagues with nothing positive, only relegation, to play for. Perhaps a compromise of reducing leagues to 18 fixtures with play offs may be discussed? Interestingly I read an article midweek that claimed that Albion Rovers were suggesting they cannot be punished for their Covid breach. No points deduction thanks to St Mirren and Kilmarnock, and they don't have any money to pay any fine! So where is their money to pay for testing coming from?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohidingplace Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, East Kent Jag II said: Interestingly I read an article midweek that claimed that Albion Rovers were suggesting they cannot be punished for their Covid breach. No points deduction thanks to St Mirren and Kilmarnock, and they don't have any money to pay any fine! So where is their money to pay for testing coming from?! Out of Doncaster’s wages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 One of the idea's in the paper sent to the SFA is to cut the season again to 18 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: One of the idea's in the paper sent to the SFA is to cut the season again to 18 games. That’s a joke. A slow start and a teams whole season is gubbed. Teams will be relegated without a fair shot at finding form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, ClydebankJag said: That’s a joke. A slow start and a teams whole season is gubbed. Teams will be relegated without a fair shot at finding form. This is an idea from the 20 league 1 and 2 clubs, but i agree with you. A season of 18 games is a farce imo. The SFA and SPFL don't seem to have made any moves to get the season restarted. Our next league game would be Forfar at Firhill a fortnight today, players need to get back up to speed, so no way the season will be restarting then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: This is an idea from the 20 league 1 and 2 clubs, but i agree with you. A season of 18 games is a farce imo. The SFA and SPFL don't seem to have made any moves to get the season restarted. Our next league game would be Forfar at Firhill a fortnight today, players need to get back up to speed, so no way the season will be restarting then. our players ... speed? best joke of the weekend AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: This is an idea from the 20 league 1 and 2 clubs, but i agree with you. A season of 18 games is a farce imo. The SFA and SPFL don't seem to have made any moves to get the season restarted. Our next league game would be Forfar at Firhill a fortnight today, players need to get back up to speed, so no way the season will be restarting then. There is an argument that all teams are in the same position so starting again at short notice doesn’t advantage or disadvantage anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: This is an idea from the 20 league 1 and 2 clubs, but i agree with you. A season of 18 games is a farce imo. The SFA and SPFL don't seem to have made any moves to get the season restarted. Our next league game would be Forfar at Firhill a fortnight today, players need to get back up to speed, so no way the season will be restarting then. How much time would clubs need to get up to speed after 3 weeks off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: How much time would clubs need to get up to speed after 3 weeks off ? I don't see players wanting to return cold. How much time would they want, i don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: How much time would clubs need to get up to speed after 3 weeks off ? At a guess 2 to 3 weeks. Even at that it's very little training time for a part time club. Also it was mentioned on TV last night that covid "testing time" could infringe on a part time club's training schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 9 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: At a guess 2 to 3 weeks. Even at that it's very little training time for a part time club. Also it was mentioned on TV last night that covid "testing time" could infringe on a part time club's training schedule. Who was putting that forward ? It takes about a minute to do a swab yourself. Do players at full time clubs have to wait to get the result before they can start to train ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Who was putting that forward ? It takes about a minute to do a swab yourself. Do players at full time clubs have to wait to get the result before they can start to train ? Think it was more to do with the time getting results back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Covid aside, I can easily recall when there was no football for at least 3 weeks due to the Scottish freeze up. Straight back into action. It’s nonsense that they would need additional time off. Get on with it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Fair point. Thistle played one match between 2 Jan and 2 March 1963. I don't recall there being any clamour for a "mini pre-season" then. That's not to say that they were all match fit when the matches restarted however. Doubt if there were many sports scientists around football clubs then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Think it was more to do with the time getting results back Are they not proposing to use lateral flow tests which give the results in around 30 mins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Think it was more to do with the time getting results back Maybe - but I am not sure there is any logic in that. Full time players are only getting tested once or twice a week. Do they wait to get the results before training - what about the days in between testing? You are only sure not to have Covid 19 at the time you return a negative result and that’s assuming there are no false results. Whoever put forward the suggestion that testing will restrict training time has some ulterior motive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Weebaw1 said: Covid aside, I can easily recall when there was no football for at least 3 weeks due to the Scottish freeze up. Straight back into action. It’s nonsense that they would need additional time off. Get on with it! There may not have been games, but they would have been able to train ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Lenziejag said: There may not have been games, but they would have been able to train ? There is a difference between training and keeping fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Whoever put forward the suggestion that testing will restrict training time has some ulterior motive Was the Bunnet before the Arbroath v Dundee game the other night. An indirect quote 12.30 min into the prog. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000rl0m/sportscene-friday-night-football-202021-arbroath-v-dundee eta supported or certainly not challenged by Leanne D & McFaddy Edited January 24, 2021 by lady-isobel-barnett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, a f kincaid said: Fair point. Thistle played one match between 2 Jan and 2 March 1963. I don't recall there being any clamour for a "mini pre-season" then. That's not to say that they were all match fit when the matches restarted however. Doubt if there were many sports scientists around football clubs then. Was that no' the season when it looked like we had a real good chance to win the league, but then that long lay-off came, after which our form slumped........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Was the Bunnet before the Arbroath v Dundee game the other night. An indirect quote 12.30 min into the prog. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000rl0m/sportscene-friday-night-football-202021-arbroath-v-dundee eta supported or certainly not challenged by Leanne D & McFaddy I rest my case m’lady - a part time team at the bottom of the championship ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Was that no' the season when it looked like we had a real good chance to win the league, but then that long lay-off came, after which our form slumped........? Are you suggesting that if we had been allowed a mini pre-season in spring 1963, we might have won the League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Sounds like Dundee Utd wish they were back in Championship after this whine. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6581132/dundee-united-asghar-blast-scottish-government-season-halt/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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