Third Lanark Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, scotty said: Wouldn't it be ironic if Ian Baraclough found a 1st team coach he could work with and who is currently out of work. One who had a not too bad record in his previous job, a few seasons experience in the championship including play-offs, nearly got his team promoted and was familiar with the Thistle set-up. I would much prefer we avoided the route again of signing a playing legend whether that be Brian Graham or as your suggesting sign Doolan back 2 months after sacking him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 55 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I would much prefer we avoided the route again of signing a playing legend whether that be Brian Graham or as your suggesting sign Doolan back 2 months after sacking him Wasn't actually suggesting this as an idea, just idly speculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 13 hours ago, thornwoodjag said: Can add Robbie Nielson to the list now Neilson has done best when he’s been at clubs with massive financial budgets such as Dundee United and Hearts. Ironically with pretty much every championship club bar something like a Killie or Dundee United type he’s not going to have that luxury. Something has seriously went wrong at his club in the United States- the statement’s coming out from them no thanks whatsoever from them other than being relieved immediately and his assistant has taken over who fits into their culture- very strange. Even when we got rid of dick Campbell or Gary Caldwell we thanked them for their service and wished them the best but with the club that sacked Neilson- absolutely nothing. It’s very strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Highly likely Neilson would have been Jags manager after Archibald had the Dundee Utd job not become available or we had sacked Archie a few weeks earlier. Instead we ended up with Caldwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 58 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Neilson has done best when he’s been at clubs with massive financial budgets such as Dundee United and Hearts. Ironically with pretty much every championship club bar something like a Killie or Dundee United type he’s not going to have that luxury. Something has seriously went wrong at his club in the United States- the statement’s coming out from them no thanks whatsoever from them other than being relieved immediately and his assistant has taken over who fits into their culture- very strange. Even when we got rid of dick Campbell or Gary Caldwell we thanked them for their service and wished them the best but with the club that sacked Neilson- absolutely nothing. It’s very strange Maybe he criticised Trump on social media! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 23 minutes ago, scotty said: Maybe he criticised Trump on social media! I had the laughing emoji there but maybe I shouldn’t as the way things are happening over there anything is possible 😯 Not a country that’s going to be part of my holiday plans for several years I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 7 hours ago, Lenziejag said: I don’t feel like there is a general malaise around the club and I would suggest that the increase in attendances over the last 2 seasons support that. I think, though, that we are in a period of transition and it still remains to be seen whether fan ownership will work for us. But it is what Colin Weir wanted, Jackie Low hijacked and now the trusts are trying to salvage. Your opinion is as valid as anyone's and I perfectly respect that view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabbath Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Stop trying to shoehorn Brian Graham into the next manager. Brian has NO previous managerial experience, He has won zero as a manager, so why is he being projected as our new manager. We are lucky this time, and still have an opportunity to seek a real experienced manager. Brian thanks, but stick to your day job… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Shine is coming off Graham as the new manager … two poor performances in a row and we may not make the playoffs Probably better to have a fresh start 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 15 hours ago, javeajag said: Shine is coming off Graham as the new manager … two poor performances in a row and we may not make the playoffs Probably better to have a fresh start The last four performances have been abysmal. We sneaked a 1-0 victory at Cappielow to paper over the cracks, and people were claiming the Raith Rovers match was one of the worst games of football they have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 I have no idea whether we are looking for a manager or a head coach. Has anybody from the club actually stated this? I also have no idea when we are looking for a manager or a head coach. Is the club officially waiting until the end of the season to start searching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 (edited) Continuing to discuss who will be our new manager is redundant until Ian Baraclough's role as sporting director is established in the minds of the board. Are we looking for a head coach and maybe an assistant who will take training and be responsible for match days and little else? A lot of the names folk are putting forward will be looking for managerial posts with the responsibility and commensurate salary that brings. Will any of them be prepared to accept the lesser salary we will be offering? (comment was made before Jag's was read) Edited April 13 by scotty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Although there won’t be new a new manager/coach this season, it doesn’t mean that Baraclough, having seen that and presumably other games, shouldn’t start helping out straight away. No time like the present to start earning your salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Although there won’t be new a new manager/coach this season, it doesn’t mean that Baraclough, having seen that and presumably other games, shouldn’t start helping out straight away. No time like the present to start earning your salt. That's true. Also helps that the current manager is not responsible for assembling the squad. A serious problem is by and large the current crop are contracted into next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 There is apparently a 4 man short list already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, javeajag said: There is apparently a 4 man short list already. To be fair Doolan was sacked well over 2 months ago so if there hadn’t been a list drawn up in that time I would hope alarm bells would be ringing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Jag said: I have no idea whether we are looking for a manager or a head coach. Has anybody from the club actually stated this? I also have no idea when we are looking for a manager or a head coach. Is the club officially waiting until the end of the season to start searching? I'd be very surprised if the board was waiting until the end of the season. I'd also be surprised if discussions hadn't been ongoing after Doolan was sacked. Now Baraclough will be having input too. I think the title of manager or coach is essentially irrelevant. The job description is more important when looking to hire. For example how much input to signings and contract negotiations will the new person get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 I was for BBG being given a chance as manager, not because he is a 'club legend' but because of his achievements with the women's team. I know that it is a different level of football, and not rated by everyone. Imo we have done the correct thing by giving him and Mark Wilson the chance to show what they can do until the end of the season. It could mean we drop to 5th and lose out on prize money, but if we had given them the job until the end of next season we could've lost out on even more if it didn't work out. As others have already said i would hope/expect that whoever along with the SD is choosing our next managerial/coaching team knows who are interested and had some tentative meetings with them. As for the rest of the season let's hope we can still get 4th, if it's even just to get a bit more prize money into the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 this is worth a watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 I wonder if next season we will see any of these ideas being used by our Head Coach. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy87wxl33j5o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: I wonder if next season we will see any of these ideas being used by our Head Coach. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy87wxl33j5o Good read! I think we're already pretty good at sowing confusion on the pitch. In fact we've perfected it to the point where our own players don't know what the f*** is going on or what they're supposed to do next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 16 hours ago, laukat said: this is worth a watch Great watch. Such a positive vibe. Shame about Saturday's performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, Albert's Ghost said: Great watch. Such a positive vibe. Shame about Saturday's performance. Whilst Si Ferry is a bit disorganised I think he gets a level of access and honesty from the players because he's more of a pal than a professional journalist. You won't see many journalists join in a pull up competition His interview with Fitzpatrick was quite good and showed he recognises his training and fitness need to improve but equally seems Fitzy comes across as quite a well mannered guy with folding his training kit. Graham was pretty self critical of his performance against Airdrie which undermines the idea that he's go too much ego. Wilson looked a bit more comfortable in front of a camera but then again he's a bit more used to it with his punditry on radio and tv. You can also see how limited Graham and Wilson are on improving fitness as this point in the season and with only 1 physio to cover nearly 30 players it does suggest we could improve in that area, particularly when the physio is saying he doesn't have access to modern equipment. Also felt a bit like there wasn't many old heads in the management team. Most of them Dargo, Graham, Wilson are of the same generation and very few of them have actually managed. Perhaps could do with someone who's been over the course a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Si Ferry is one of the most irritating people in Scottish football. That accent is an absolute abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 So the shortlist of new managers will now be shorter, with Wilson and Graham being removed from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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