scotty Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: I think Graham suffers the same as McCall various people dont like them as a person or they don't fit the mould of what they believe Thistle should be about - but its about results and if Graham keeps producing the Goods why change - McCall can spot a player - why would he not be a favourite for the SD Job Because the job is as a SD, not a scout? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 I just looked at the job advert for the first time. Strikes me as quite a niche skillset. You need someone who has experience of football and player recruitment at a decent level (probably an ex manager) and also has business experience and can be a club ambassador. Which, I suppose you can also gain from being a football manager. Actually, why don't we just get a football manager? Is the idea that you don't have to sack a sporting director during a poor run of results, so you can get a bit more continuity and long term planning? And the coach becomes your scapegoat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, jlsarmy said: Tell me McCalls credentials to be a SD Has he got a proven track record to bring Academy prospects to first team football Has he got the Coaching Credentials or indeed his Coaching Badges to progress our Football Club If we’re going to be a “ progressive “ football club how can re - employing a sacked manager be the way forward. Firstly, I’m calm about McCall being appointed if that happens but I can’t predict the future to know whether he would be successful or not. but let’s be clear…..ex players and managers going into SD roles is a well trodden path in football ……so that’s normal. yes he has his coaching badges as I understand it. i think most of us think mccalls record in identifying players is pretty good and that he knows Scottish football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 I keep getting visions of McCall standing in his badly soiled Ayr United trackies presenting his strategic analysis to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Bobby Dinnie could spot a player. Not sure how many Sporting Director roles he had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 I really think we need to determine what we need/want from a sporting director and a head coach. Many of the suggestions for the way forward are for people who have done the existing manager's job to differing levels of success. If we are going to seperate the two roles let's get it right before we hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 A lot of the analysis of the sporting director/head coach appointments seems to be along the lines of who do we as fans blame for X or Y, as though the ability of fans to allocate blame is the most important aspect. Could we not take a more positive view of this potential future working relationship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 57 minutes ago, scotty said: I really think we need to determine what we need/want from a sporting director and a head coach. Many of the suggestions for the way forward are for people who have done the existing manager's job to differing levels of success. If we are going to seperate the two roles let's get it right before we hire. What makes you think that those involved in the recruitment haven’t ? Those making the decision don’t tend to post on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: What makes you think that those involved in the recruitment haven’t ? Those making the decision don’t tend to post on here I'm contributing to the discussion on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Jag said: Bobby Dinnie could spot a player. Not sure how many Sporting Director roles he had. Possil YM for decades but I take your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Callum Davidson as Head Coach? I’d say yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, sandy said: Callum Davidson as Head Coach? I’d say yes Tell us why Sandy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McD said: Tell us why Sandy... He did well at St J, he’s hungry enough to want success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 29 minutes ago, sandy said: Callum Davidson as Head Coach? I’d say yes He wouldn’t have been available at the time the applications were open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: He wouldn’t have been available at the time the applications were open. If we recruit SD post first, there is still time to consider available coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 7 minutes ago, sandy said: If we recruit SD post first, there is still time to consider available coaches Sorry I misread. Thought you were suggesting for SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sandy said: He did well at St J, he’s hungry enough to want success No thanks. He’s been a dud at QP apart from a win at ibrox and his last season at St J was poor Edited March 16 by jaggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 Maybe we need a separate Sporting Director thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 I suspect Calum Davidson will end up at Dunfermline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 17 minutes ago, JeanieD said: I suspect Calum Davidson will end up at Dunfermline yeh surprised at that sacking so soon especially after paying compo to release him from Kelty Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 29 minutes ago, JeanieD said: I suspect Calum Davidson will end up at Dunfermline And Tidser will end up at Queens Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: And Tidser will end up at Queens Park Dools might be a good geographical fit for QP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 35 minutes ago, sandy said: Dools might be a good geographical fit for QP Hope not. Rather see him end up at a less horrible club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, sandy said: Dools might be a good geographical fit for QP I think the way things are going under the Laird it will be a requirement there that any future manager there must already hold a Celtic season ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 See when you look at Calum Davidson, and Michael Tidser, and actually just about everyone ever... Do you ever think there's really no such thing as good and bad football managers (except maybe at the very highest level)? Just good luck and back luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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